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	<title>Comments on: Boundless Magazine Openly challenges Christianity Today&#8217;s review of Sex in the City</title>
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		<title>By: Looking Closer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Camerin did her job, and did it well. She noted virtues of &#8220;Sex &#38; the City,&#8221; and criticized explicit sex scenes. So, Focus on the Family&#8217;s Ted Slater declared: &#8220;Christianity Today Rel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looking Closer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Camerin did her job, and did it well. She noted virtues of &#8220;Sex &#38; the City,&#8221; and criticized explicit sex scenes. So, Focus on the Family&#8217;s Ted Slater declared: &#8220;Christianity Today Rel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Christ and Pop Culture noticed the rant too, and a reader identifying himself as &#8220;The Dane&#8221; responded, pointing out several places in which Slater was flat-out wrong in his reading of Courtney&#8217;s review. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christ and Pop Culture noticed the rant too, and a reader identifying himself as &#8220;The Dane&#8221; responded, pointing out several places in which Slater was flat-out wrong in his reading of Courtney&#8217;s review. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted, I am afraid that neither you nor I are in the position to judge whether somebody is a "good" or "bad" Christian because they happened to overall enjoy a certain movie, and say that it *might* be worth the while of *adults who are mature enough to handle watching it.* Judging a person's faith or the spiritual condition of an organization is up to God, and if we try to speak for Him in such a condemning manner, without Him literally telling us His position (via either personal revelation or scriptural instruction), then we have indeed reached the height of pretentiousness. Every Christian wants God on their side and to speak favorably of their views, so why should I trust you in particular? This is the main problem I have with you, and you seem to conveniently skirt around it in your comments. You keep going "Well, I'm concerned about this," but your words about CT's reviewer and their entire organization show a more judgmental and vicious attitude. You throw her and CT to the wolves, all for being concerned that Sex and the City was in some respects, more refreshing for the reviewer than Bible Studies. That should actually tell us more about the condition of our churches than the value of a specific movie. The church today has this appalling and damaging fear to deal with sex in any frank and honest manner, aside from telling our kids "Not until you're married." And naturally, people will look for answers and sift them out of cultural products when the church is not doing its job.

When I see you and Ted Baehr, I am reminded of the Christians who  subscribed to a venomous legalism and said that eating meat sacrificed to idols was intrinsically sinful. Of course, I presume you know how Paul corrected them - let each man live his life according to his personal conscience and individual relationship with God. If he can eat that meat and still worship Christ unhindered, then by all means allow him to do so, while being sensitive to the potential struggles in a younger Christian (and notice that it's the *younger* Christian who does the abstaining).

When Paul spoke in Athens, he not only familiarized himself with all the temples and idols and the Romans' religious system; he even commended them for being religious people, who subconsciously longed to worship and befriend the Judeo-Christian God. Imagine that! Notice how he did not start off declaring, "You have followed the wrong religion, and you're all going to Hell unless you follow Christ!" No, he pointed out the good aspects of the fervent belief in their religion, and seasoning his words with grace, gradually and convincingly presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Why on earth can we not do something similar with worldly movies?

Hellfire preaching has its place - Alice Cooper (yes, the rock star) actually became a Christian after listening to a hellfire type of sermon. But truth seasoned with grace is usually the way to go, especially if you personally have a problem with CT "endorsing" Sex and the City (actually, it was NOT an endorsement - why does one need to "endorse" every movie they like?!).

I am open to correction on any of these points, but I want you to have the same openness to being proven wrong, Ted. Read Proverbs 9:9 and get back to me. It could be that you are taking heat from fellow Christians because we are less spiritual or "in tune" or less mature, when compared to you. Or maybe it's because you're wrong, and we're trying to point it out. Be very careful in evaluating which one it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted, I am afraid that neither you nor I are in the position to judge whether somebody is a &#8220;good&#8221; or &#8220;bad&#8221; Christian because they happened to overall enjoy a certain movie, and say that it *might* be worth the while of *adults who are mature enough to handle watching it.* Judging a person&#8217;s faith or the spiritual condition of an organization is up to God, and if we try to speak for Him in such a condemning manner, without Him literally telling us His position (via either personal revelation or scriptural instruction), then we have indeed reached the height of pretentiousness. Every Christian wants God on their side and to speak favorably of their views, so why should I trust you in particular? This is the main problem I have with you, and you seem to conveniently skirt around it in your comments. You keep going &#8220;Well, I&#8217;m concerned about this,&#8221; but your words about CT&#8217;s reviewer and their entire organization show a more judgmental and vicious attitude. You throw her and CT to the wolves, all for being concerned that Sex and the City was in some respects, more refreshing for the reviewer than Bible Studies. That should actually tell us more about the condition of our churches than the value of a specific movie. The church today has this appalling and damaging fear to deal with sex in any frank and honest manner, aside from telling our kids &#8220;Not until you&#8217;re married.&#8221; And naturally, people will look for answers and sift them out of cultural products when the church is not doing its job.</p>
<p>When I see you and Ted Baehr, I am reminded of the Christians who  subscribed to a venomous legalism and said that eating meat sacrificed to idols was intrinsically sinful. Of course, I presume you know how Paul corrected them - let each man live his life according to his personal conscience and individual relationship with God. If he can eat that meat and still worship Christ unhindered, then by all means allow him to do so, while being sensitive to the potential struggles in a younger Christian (and notice that it&#8217;s the *younger* Christian who does the abstaining).</p>
<p>When Paul spoke in Athens, he not only familiarized himself with all the temples and idols and the Romans&#8217; religious system; he even commended them for being religious people, who subconsciously longed to worship and befriend the Judeo-Christian God. Imagine that! Notice how he did not start off declaring, &#8220;You have followed the wrong religion, and you&#8217;re all going to Hell unless you follow Christ!&#8221; No, he pointed out the good aspects of the fervent belief in their religion, and seasoning his words with grace, gradually and convincingly presented the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Why on earth can we not do something similar with worldly movies?</p>
<p>Hellfire preaching has its place - Alice Cooper (yes, the rock star) actually became a Christian after listening to a hellfire type of sermon. But truth seasoned with grace is usually the way to go, especially if you personally have a problem with CT &#8220;endorsing&#8221; Sex and the City (actually, it was NOT an endorsement - why does one need to &#8220;endorse&#8221; every movie they like?!).</p>
<p>I am open to correction on any of these points, but I want you to have the same openness to being proven wrong, Ted. Read Proverbs 9:9 and get back to me. It could be that you are taking heat from fellow Christians because we are less spiritual or &#8220;in tune&#8221; or less mature, when compared to you. Or maybe it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re wrong, and we&#8217;re trying to point it out. Be very careful in evaluating which one it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, my use of the term "objective" was sloppy. I agree that no human can do anything "objectively," including writing movie reviews.

This conversation is helpful.

Ted Slaters last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;So You Wanna Be a Freelancer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, my use of the term &#8220;objective&#8221; was sloppy. I agree that no human can do anything &#8220;objectively,&#8221; including writing movie reviews.</p>
<p>This conversation is helpful.</p>
<p>Ted Slaters last blog post..<a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow">So You Wanna Be a Freelancer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter T Chattaway</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/boundless-magazine-openly-challenges-christianity-todays-review-of-sex-in-the-city/#comment-2515</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter T Chattaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted Slater wrote:

&lt;i&gt;By “objective” reviewer, I mean one who approaches a movie more clinically, more critically, more analytically than someone who’s just passively watching a flick and then writing that they “enjoyed” it because it was a reunion of characters from a TV show they enjoyed.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, okay, no argument there, as far as that goes.  I like reviews that point our attention to the thing being reviewed rather than to the person writing the review, myself.  But I must also concede that people sometimes bring highly personal perspectives to their reviews that are better acknowledged than not-acknowledged.  For example, I was 34 years old when I got married and lost my virginity, and this inevitably affected how I responded to &lt;i&gt;The 40-Year-Old Virgin&lt;/i&gt;, so I made a point of mentioning that in my review for CT.  Likewise, single Christian women may have a perspective on &lt;i&gt;Sex and the City&lt;/i&gt; that men such as you and I do &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; have.  "Objective" criticism is well and good, but we should be careful not to turn criticism into a game of disection or vivisection that loses sight of the life that &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; be had in enjoying and "receiving" a film.

Beyond that, it seems plausible to me that many of the "objective" critics you cite by way of Rotten Tomatoes are probably people who didn't care for the TV show in the first place, so I'm not sure what their opinions of the film would be worth, really.  Certainly I, as a &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; fan, will find reviews of any given &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; film more valuable or enlightening if they are written by people who "appreciate" the series as a whole.  It is they, and not some caustic outsider, who can tell me whether and how a &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; movie lives up to the standard set by its predecessors.  It is they, and not some caustic outsider, who can tell me what the strengths and weaknesses of the franchise really are, and whether the film tilts more to one side of that spectrum than the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Slater wrote:</p>
<p><i>By “objective” reviewer, I mean one who approaches a movie more clinically, more critically, more analytically than someone who’s just passively watching a flick and then writing that they “enjoyed” it because it was a reunion of characters from a TV show they enjoyed.</i></p>
<p>Well, okay, no argument there, as far as that goes.  I like reviews that point our attention to the thing being reviewed rather than to the person writing the review, myself.  But I must also concede that people sometimes bring highly personal perspectives to their reviews that are better acknowledged than not-acknowledged.  For example, I was 34 years old when I got married and lost my virginity, and this inevitably affected how I responded to <i>The 40-Year-Old Virgin</i>, so I made a point of mentioning that in my review for CT.  Likewise, single Christian women may have a perspective on <i>Sex and the City</i> that men such as you and I do <i>not</i> have.  &#8220;Objective&#8221; criticism is well and good, but we should be careful not to turn criticism into a game of disection or vivisection that loses sight of the life that <i>can</i> be had in enjoying and &#8220;receiving&#8221; a film.</p>
<p>Beyond that, it seems plausible to me that many of the &#8220;objective&#8221; critics you cite by way of Rotten Tomatoes are probably people who didn&#8217;t care for the TV show in the first place, so I&#8217;m not sure what their opinions of the film would be worth, really.  Certainly I, as a <i>Star Trek</i> fan, will find reviews of any given <i>Star Trek</i> film more valuable or enlightening if they are written by people who &#8220;appreciate&#8221; the series as a whole.  It is they, and not some caustic outsider, who can tell me whether and how a <i>Star Trek</i> movie lives up to the standard set by its predecessors.  It is they, and not some caustic outsider, who can tell me what the strengths and weaknesses of the franchise really are, and whether the film tilts more to one side of that spectrum than the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Slater</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/boundless-magazine-openly-challenges-christianity-todays-review-of-sex-in-the-city/#comment-2513</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that a reviewer actually "models" cinematic critique for their readers.

Michael Medved's way of reviewing movies influences the way I watch and evaluate them. Same with Ted Baehr at MovieGuide.org or Adam Holz at PluggedInOnline.org or someone at CT.

When a reviewer looks beyond themes of "forgiveness" and sees that no true "repentance" takes place, that prompts me to reconsider the surface messages and take a thoughtful look at underlying messages and themes.

When a reviewer says that they liked a movie because they liked the TV series, that they enjoyed it despite its pornographic imagery, that they found it more refreshing and relevant than their church friendships, how might that influence my movie-watching habits?

Ted Slaters last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;So You Wanna Be a Freelancer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that a reviewer actually &#8220;models&#8221; cinematic critique for their readers.</p>
<p>Michael Medved&#8217;s way of reviewing movies influences the way I watch and evaluate them. Same with Ted Baehr at MovieGuide.org or Adam Holz at PluggedInOnline.org or someone at CT.</p>
<p>When a reviewer looks beyond themes of &#8220;forgiveness&#8221; and sees that no true &#8220;repentance&#8221; takes place, that prompts me to reconsider the surface messages and take a thoughtful look at underlying messages and themes.</p>
<p>When a reviewer says that they liked a movie because they liked the TV series, that they enjoyed it despite its pornographic imagery, that they found it more refreshing and relevant than their church friendships, how might that influence my movie-watching habits?</p>
<p>Ted Slaters last blog post..<a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow">So You Wanna Be a Freelancer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ted Slater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Slater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I'll assume that your question is not merely rhetorical.

By "objective" reviewer, I mean one who approaches a movie more clinically, more critically, more analytically than someone who's just passively watching a flick and then writing that they "enjoyed" it because it was a reunion of characters from a TV show they enjoyed. I don't care much about a mere subjective opinion; I want a review that digs into the themes and the consequential aspects of a film.

This, in my opinion, is how the professionals do it: http://www.boundlessline.org/2008/06/plugged-in-and.html

Ted Slaters last blog post..&lt;a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow"&gt;So You Wanna Be a Freelancer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I&#8217;ll assume that your question is not merely rhetorical.</p>
<p>By &#8220;objective&#8221; reviewer, I mean one who approaches a movie more clinically, more critically, more analytically than someone who&#8217;s just passively watching a flick and then writing that they &#8220;enjoyed&#8221; it because it was a reunion of characters from a TV show they enjoyed. I don&#8217;t care much about a mere subjective opinion; I want a review that digs into the themes and the consequential aspects of a film.</p>
<p>This, in my opinion, is how the professionals do it: <a href="http://www.boundlessline.org/2008/06/plugged-in-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boundlessline.org/2008/06/plugged-in-and.html</a></p>
<p>Ted Slaters last blog post..<a href="http://www.boundless.org/2005/articles/a0001769.cfm" rel="nofollow">So You Wanna Be a Freelancer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter T Chattaway</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/asides/boundless-magazine-openly-challenges-christianity-todays-review-of-sex-in-the-city/#comment-2509</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter T Chattaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted Slater wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Check out the reviews on RottenTomatoes.com to get a better idea of the vapid quality of this movie, a movie that seemingly only fans of the TV show could like. . . .

Most “objective” reviewers find the movie dull, not a quality piece of work . . .&lt;/i&gt;

What on earth is an "objective" reviewer, and why should we automatically trust a non-fan's opinion of the movie more than a fan's opinion of the movie?

I ask this as a life-long Trekkie who finds value even in some of the lamer &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; movies, and even though the vast majority of mainstream, "objective" critics would probably be quite happy to dismiss them out of hand.

Yes, the so-called "objective" reviews written by outsiders can give us perspective.  But so can the reviews written by insiders.

Peter T Chattaways last blog post..&lt;a href="http://filmchatblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/flashback-sir-richard-attenborough-grey.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Flashback: Sir Richard Attenborough, the Grey Owl interview&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted Slater wrote:</p>
<p><i>Check out the reviews on RottenTomatoes.com to get a better idea of the vapid quality of this movie, a movie that seemingly only fans of the TV show could like. . . .</p>
<p>Most “objective” reviewers find the movie dull, not a quality piece of work . . .</i></p>
<p>What on earth is an &#8220;objective&#8221; reviewer, and why should we automatically trust a non-fan&#8217;s opinion of the movie more than a fan&#8217;s opinion of the movie?</p>
<p>I ask this as a life-long Trekkie who finds value even in some of the lamer <i>Star Trek</i> movies, and even though the vast majority of mainstream, &#8220;objective&#8221; critics would probably be quite happy to dismiss them out of hand.</p>
<p>Yes, the so-called &#8220;objective&#8221; reviews written by outsiders can give us perspective.  But so can the reviews written by insiders.</p>
<p>Peter T Chattaways last blog post..<a href="http://filmchatblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/flashback-sir-richard-attenborough-grey.html" rel="nofollow">Flashback: Sir Richard Attenborough, the Grey Owl interview</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Again, my beef isn’t with individual Christians struggling to honor Christ in their media decisions. It's with a high-profile Christian publication that is essentially encouraging their constituents to go to this soft-core pornographic movie, implying that 'it’s good for your soul.'"

Just to make sure that we're all on the same page, I went back and read CT's response to all of the SATC criticism. In my opinion, this is the most important part of the article:

"...to slam us for reviewing the film makes no sense. Our mission statement is to help readers make discerning choices about movies -- not to make the choices for people. Our review clearly warned readers of the sinful behavior in the movie, while also noting some of its redeeming factors -- like the universal longing for love and companionship, what it means to be a true friend, and more.

But some folks believe that when it comes to a movie like Sex and the City, there should be no choice -- they've decided that no one should see it, period ... at least no one who calls themselves a Christian. They think we should essentially have a three-word review: 'Don't watch it!' But that's not what we're about. We trust our readers to make their own decisions; we won't make those decisions for anyone."

However, I assume that this is the part of the article that you take issues with:

"But here's another reason for reviewing SATC and other uncomfortable films: It's good to sometimes enter into the minds and worldviews of others, even of those we completely disagree with. It's good to see what the world looks like through the eyes of even the depraved."

Based on your comments here and elsewhere, I assume you take with issue with that part about it being "good to see what the world looks like through the eyes of even the depraved" and interpret that to be a tacit endorsement to indulge in all manner of sinfulness and wickedness, or in this case, a "soft-core pornographic movie".

However, when taken in light of the earlier passage, I can't really agree with that interpretation at all. Nowhere do I get the implication that CT has adopted the opinion that "SATC" is "good for your soul" as some sort of institutional, editorial stance.

Perhaps it could've been worded a little better, but I think CT makes it fairly clear about their stance on films, and how they approach such things: "We trust our readers to make their own decisions; we won't make those decisions for anyone." In other words, I take that to mean that even when CT makes positive statements about a film that most people wouldn't find objectionable, they still rely on their readers to ultimately use their own discretion and follow their own conscience.

This might seem like a cop-out to you, and I can understand why -- it allows for an awful lot of wiggle room when it comes matters like the one raised by the "SATC" review, and it requires more work on the part of the reader to do some homework. For example, they might need to read other reviews by the critic in question, so see how well their opinions and convictions seem to measure up with the critics. But I don't know how a publication that serves as large and diverse an audience as CT's can function otherwise without adopting the most fundamentalist and conservative of stances towards all films. (Nor do I see how forcing the reader to do a little more work to form their own opinion to automatically be a bad thing.)

I have to admit, I'm curious: when you look at CT's history of reviews, do you see this issue surrounding the "SATC" review to be the rule or the exception? Or, to put it another way, do you believe that CT's policy, as stated in their recent defense, as well as articles like http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/havewelostourminds.html, is intrinsically flawed and that, by and large, their movie reviews are causing Christians to stumble? Or do you think, overall, that their approach is fine, and that, by and large, their reviews are well-reasoned and worthwhile?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, my beef isn’t with individual Christians struggling to honor Christ in their media decisions. It&#8217;s with a high-profile Christian publication that is essentially encouraging their constituents to go to this soft-core pornographic movie, implying that &#8216;it’s good for your soul.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Just to make sure that we&#8217;re all on the same page, I went back and read CT&#8217;s response to all of the SATC criticism. In my opinion, this is the most important part of the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;to slam us for reviewing the film makes no sense. Our mission statement is to help readers make discerning choices about movies &#8212; not to make the choices for people. Our review clearly warned readers of the sinful behavior in the movie, while also noting some of its redeeming factors &#8212; like the universal longing for love and companionship, what it means to be a true friend, and more.</p>
<p>But some folks believe that when it comes to a movie like Sex and the City, there should be no choice &#8212; they&#8217;ve decided that no one should see it, period &#8230; at least no one who calls themselves a Christian. They think we should essentially have a three-word review: &#8216;Don&#8217;t watch it!&#8217; But that&#8217;s not what we&#8217;re about. We trust our readers to make their own decisions; we won&#8217;t make those decisions for anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I assume that this is the part of the article that you take issues with:</p>
<p>&#8220;But here&#8217;s another reason for reviewing SATC and other uncomfortable films: It&#8217;s good to sometimes enter into the minds and worldviews of others, even of those we completely disagree with. It&#8217;s good to see what the world looks like through the eyes of even the depraved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Based on your comments here and elsewhere, I assume you take with issue with that part about it being &#8220;good to see what the world looks like through the eyes of even the depraved&#8221; and interpret that to be a tacit endorsement to indulge in all manner of sinfulness and wickedness, or in this case, a &#8220;soft-core pornographic movie&#8221;.</p>
<p>However, when taken in light of the earlier passage, I can&#8217;t really agree with that interpretation at all. Nowhere do I get the implication that CT has adopted the opinion that &#8220;SATC&#8221; is &#8220;good for your soul&#8221; as some sort of institutional, editorial stance.</p>
<p>Perhaps it could&#8217;ve been worded a little better, but I think CT makes it fairly clear about their stance on films, and how they approach such things: &#8220;We trust our readers to make their own decisions; we won&#8217;t make those decisions for anyone.&#8221; In other words, I take that to mean that even when CT makes positive statements about a film that most people wouldn&#8217;t find objectionable, they still rely on their readers to ultimately use their own discretion and follow their own conscience.</p>
<p>This might seem like a cop-out to you, and I can understand why &#8212; it allows for an awful lot of wiggle room when it comes matters like the one raised by the &#8220;SATC&#8221; review, and it requires more work on the part of the reader to do some homework. For example, they might need to read other reviews by the critic in question, so see how well their opinions and convictions seem to measure up with the critics. But I don&#8217;t know how a publication that serves as large and diverse an audience as CT&#8217;s can function otherwise without adopting the most fundamentalist and conservative of stances towards all films. (Nor do I see how forcing the reader to do a little more work to form their own opinion to automatically be a bad thing.)</p>
<p>I have to admit, I&#8217;m curious: when you look at CT&#8217;s history of reviews, do you see this issue surrounding the &#8220;SATC&#8221; review to be the rule or the exception? Or, to put it another way, do you believe that CT&#8217;s policy, as stated in their recent defense, as well as articles like <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/havewelostourminds.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/commentaries/havewelostourminds.html</a>, is intrinsically flawed and that, by and large, their movie reviews are causing Christians to stumble? Or do you think, overall, that their approach is fine, and that, by and large, their reviews are well-reasoned and worthwhile?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ted - Okay, since don't see the reasons why Ms. Courtney's review shouldn't be considered glowing, I'll separate them out for you.

The reviewer gave it a Good rating rather than a great rating. She expressed disappointment in the main storyline and it's resolution. She compared it unfavourably to the television series, saying "the franchise shines best when showcasing the characters' little, daily struggles and neuroses than when trying to make bigger statements." She characterized the production as trying to shoehorn too many ideas, concepts, and characters into its runtime, and only succeeding moderately well at this. She further mentions that the film suffers for the absence of The Reason for Watching the Television Series (at least the main reason for her). And she talks about the sex scenes as being offensive and perhaps only there as a means of shocking audiences.

Of course she also talks about the film's positive aspects, which will largely be positives for people already made fans of the show. As you mention, she talks about how she enjoyed the characters and the storyline (for the most part, see her caveat above). She also found value in people actually dealing with the difficulties of a single's life and difficulties (something that the church generally has not successfully accomplished). She spoke of other elements that she found to be of a higher quality.

Taken as a whole, in her opinion, the positive elements outweighed the bad by a small margin. That's all there in the review. If that's a glowing review, you must read a lot of glowing reviews, because most films are average or slightly better than average and those are the kinds of terms that reviewers typically use. Presenting the positive as well as the mitigating factors. Generally, when one thinks of the term glowing, one imagines unmitigated support. For instance, I wouldn't typically consider a review that said &lt;i&gt;Movie A excels in Areas X, Y, and Z but could have done better in Areas E, F, and G&lt;/i&gt; to be a glowing review. A glowing review would not really go into the Buts.

As far as &lt;i&gt;CT&lt;/i&gt; essentially misrepresenting those who found it problematic, that's not exactly what happened.

I suspect the part you're thinking of is when &lt;i&gt;CT&lt;/i&gt; says, "But some folks believe that when it comes to a movie like &lt;i&gt;Sex and the City&lt;/i&gt;, there should be no choice&#8212;they've decided that no one should see it, period...at least no one who calls themselves a Christian." This statement is not, in fact, a misrepresentation of any kind, since that is the sentiment present in the excerpts they earlier quote. Things like: "How can any Christian who takes the Bible seriously want to watch (or review) Sex and the City?" The same sentiment runs thick in the comments to your own post&#8212;the idea no true Christian should watch such smut. In your letter, you say that &lt;i&gt;CT&lt;/i&gt; believes "that those who disapprove of CT's endorsement are calling for a boycott of it." It wouldn't be hard for &lt;i&gt;CT&lt;/i&gt; to come to that conclusion&#8212;especially when there are people actually saying that &lt;i&gt;no Christian&lt;/i&gt; should watch the film. I fail to see how &lt;i&gt;CT&lt;/i&gt; is doing any misrepresentation here.

The Danes last blog post..&lt;a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/309171713/2008_06_01_old1.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;20080610&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ted - Okay, since don&#8217;t see the reasons why Ms. Courtney&#8217;s review shouldn&#8217;t be considered glowing, I&#8217;ll separate them out for you.</p>
<p>The reviewer gave it a Good rating rather than a great rating. She expressed disappointment in the main storyline and it&#8217;s resolution. She compared it unfavourably to the television series, saying &#8220;the franchise shines best when showcasing the characters&#8217; little, daily struggles and neuroses than when trying to make bigger statements.&#8221; She characterized the production as trying to shoehorn too many ideas, concepts, and characters into its runtime, and only succeeding moderately well at this. She further mentions that the film suffers for the absence of The Reason for Watching the Television Series (at least the main reason for her). And she talks about the sex scenes as being offensive and perhaps only there as a means of shocking audiences.</p>
<p>Of course she also talks about the film&#8217;s positive aspects, which will largely be positives for people already made fans of the show. As you mention, she talks about how she enjoyed the characters and the storyline (for the most part, see her caveat above). She also found value in people actually dealing with the difficulties of a single&#8217;s life and difficulties (something that the church generally has not successfully accomplished). She spoke of other elements that she found to be of a higher quality.</p>
<p>Taken as a whole, in her opinion, the positive elements outweighed the bad by a small margin. That&#8217;s all there in the review. If that&#8217;s a glowing review, you must read a lot of glowing reviews, because most films are average or slightly better than average and those are the kinds of terms that reviewers typically use. Presenting the positive as well as the mitigating factors. Generally, when one thinks of the term glowing, one imagines unmitigated support. For instance, I wouldn&#8217;t typically consider a review that said <i>Movie A excels in Areas X, Y, and Z but could have done better in Areas E, F, and G</i> to be a glowing review. A glowing review would not really go into the Buts.</p>
<p>As far as <i>CT</i> essentially misrepresenting those who found it problematic, that&#8217;s not exactly what happened.</p>
<p>I suspect the part you&#8217;re thinking of is when <i>CT</i> says, &#8220;But some folks believe that when it comes to a movie like <i>Sex and the City</i>, there should be no choice&#8212;they&#8217;ve decided that no one should see it, period&#8230;at least no one who calls themselves a Christian.&#8221; This statement is not, in fact, a misrepresentation of any kind, since that is the sentiment present in the excerpts they earlier quote. Things like: &#8220;How can any Christian who takes the Bible seriously want to watch (or review) Sex and the City?&#8221; The same sentiment runs thick in the comments to your own post&#8212;the idea no true Christian should watch such smut. In your letter, you say that <i>CT</i> believes &#8220;that those who disapprove of CT&#8217;s endorsement are calling for a boycott of it.&#8221; It wouldn&#8217;t be hard for <i>CT</i> to come to that conclusion&#8212;especially when there are people actually saying that <i>no Christian</i> should watch the film. I fail to see how <i>CT</i> is doing any misrepresentation here.</p>
<p>The Danes last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/309171713/2008_06_01_old1.php" rel="nofollow">20080610</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richard Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Tom's recently recovered comment above.</description>
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