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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/featured/giving-the-beauty-of-christian-hospitality/#comment-48685</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 22:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan - I&#039;ve been reading a book that might interest you, Alan. You&#039;ve probably heard of it. It&#039;s Leithart&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591280273?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=tellmethestor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1591280273&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deep Comedy&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s much shorter than Hart&#039;s book and, while it&#039;s certainly not &lt;i&gt;light&lt;/i&gt; reading, it&#039;s notably more accessible. It&#039;s not precisely about the same thing as &lt;i&gt;The Beauty...&lt;/i&gt;, but it draws heavily from it, and discusses many similar themes. Plus, with your literary education it might touch on some topics that would intrigue you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan &#8211; I&#8217;ve been reading a book that might interest you, Alan. You&#8217;ve probably heard of it. It&#8217;s Leithart&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591280273?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=tellmethestor-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1591280273" rel="nofollow">Deep Comedy</a>. It&#8217;s much shorter than Hart&#8217;s book and, while it&#8217;s certainly not <i>light</i> reading, it&#8217;s notably more accessible. It&#8217;s not precisely about the same thing as <i>The Beauty&#8230;</i>, but it draws heavily from it, and discusses many similar themes. Plus, with your literary education it might touch on some topics that would intrigue you.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Yes. I did read the whole book. I actually read it in preparation for attending &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dhs.edu/academics/analogiaentis.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a theological conference on the analogy of being&lt;/a&gt;. Even though I found the book to be a fascinating and excellent read, even with a theological and philosophical background, I found it as well to be a very challenging read. I don&#039;t even feel qualified to comment critically on it since I feel I was only grasping at comprehending the main point of the book. It&#039;s on my &quot;to re-read&quot; list.

This is not to say that I didn&#039;t understand any of it, but it was the first time I had ever read seriously about the question of being and God. I described my impression of Hart to someone who understands him much deeper than I do, and he seemed to like the description: a philosophically erudite version of James Jordan and John Piper. I&#039;m not sure what you know of Jordan, but there is a since in which, if you&#039;ve read Piper&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Desiring God&lt;/i&gt;, then you&#039;ve gotten a sliver of what Hart&#039;s after.

As for Reformed treatments of the book, I&#039;m not aware of any. If you&#039;d like some criticism, though, you might find the following comments from Halden, of Inhabitatio Dei, helpful: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2006/08/24/the-beauty-of-the-infinite-a-review/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2008/07/23/hart-and-jenson-locating-the-disagreement/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scotts last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/342-miles.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;34.2 Miles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Yes. I did read the whole book. I actually read it in preparation for attending <a href="http://www.dhs.edu/academics/analogiaentis.aspx" rel="nofollow">a theological conference on the analogy of being</a>. Even though I found the book to be a fascinating and excellent read, even with a theological and philosophical background, I found it as well to be a very challenging read. I don&#8217;t even feel qualified to comment critically on it since I feel I was only grasping at comprehending the main point of the book. It&#8217;s on my &#8220;to re-read&#8221; list.</p>
<p>This is not to say that I didn&#8217;t understand any of it, but it was the first time I had ever read seriously about the question of being and God. I described my impression of Hart to someone who understands him much deeper than I do, and he seemed to like the description: a philosophically erudite version of James Jordan and John Piper. I&#8217;m not sure what you know of Jordan, but there is a since in which, if you&#8217;ve read Piper&#8217;s <i>Desiring God</i>, then you&#8217;ve gotten a sliver of what Hart&#8217;s after.</p>
<p>As for Reformed treatments of the book, I&#8217;m not aware of any. If you&#8217;d like some criticism, though, you might find the following comments from Halden, of Inhabitatio Dei, helpful: <a href="http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2006/08/24/the-beauty-of-the-infinite-a-review/" rel="nofollow">link</a>, <a href="http://www.inhabitatiodei.com/2008/07/23/hart-and-jenson-locating-the-disagreement/" rel="nofollow">link</a>.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Scotts last blog post..<a href="http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/342-miles.html" rel="nofollow">34.2 Miles</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Van Eman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Van Eman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reflections, Alan. Amazing how right hospitality is. I&#039;m a big fan of Henri Nouwen and have enjoyed his material on the movement from Hostility to Hospitality in the book, &lt;i&gt;Reaching Out&lt;/i&gt;. 

Possibly of note, I&#039;m hosting a conversation on &lt;i&gt;The Gift by Lewis Hyde at HighCallingBlogs.com. The book is sort of a treatise on gifts - what they are, how they move, how they increase, etc. Here&#039;s a post related to your content here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://highcallingblogs.com/blog/the-gift-dont-be-a-keeper/2669/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don&#039;t be a keeper&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reflections, Alan. Amazing how right hospitality is. I&#8217;m a big fan of Henri Nouwen and have enjoyed his material on the movement from Hostility to Hospitality in the book, <i>Reaching Out</i>. </p>
<p>Possibly of note, I&#8217;m hosting a conversation on <i>The Gift by Lewis Hyde at HighCallingBlogs.com. The book is sort of a treatise on gifts &#8211; what they are, how they move, how they increase, etc. Here&#8217;s a post related to your content here: <a href="http://highcallingblogs.com/blog/the-gift-dont-be-a-keeper/2669/" rel="nofollow">Don&#8217;t be a keeper</a>.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Scott,
Yep, that&#039;s the one. I was thinking of a later passage where Hart talks about the Gift. Did you read the whole book? If so, what did you think of it? I&#039;m most of the way through, and thus far I&#039;m not able to follow a lot of his argument, I don&#039;t seem to have the theological/philosophical background. 

I&#039;ve heard that some Reformed theologians have critiqued the book, but haven&#039;t been able to find anything. What are your thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Scott,<br />
Yep, that&#8217;s the one. I was thinking of a later passage where Hart talks about the Gift. Did you read the whole book? If so, what did you think of it? I&#8217;m most of the way through, and thus far I&#8217;m not able to follow a lot of his argument, I don&#8217;t seem to have the theological/philosophical background. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that some Reformed theologians have critiqued the book, but haven&#8217;t been able to find anything. What are your thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er. I mean: &lt;a href=&quot;http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2008/08/most-wonderful-apatheia.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scotts last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/mjwh-intertextuality.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MJ/WH Intertextuality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er. I mean: <a href="http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2008/08/most-wonderful-apatheia.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Scotts last blog post..<a href="http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/mjwh-intertextuality.html" rel="nofollow">MJ/WH Intertextuality</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alan - You mean &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Scotts last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/mjwh-intertextuality.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MJ/WH Intertextuality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alan &#8211; You mean <i>this?</p>
<p><abbr><em>Scotts last blog post..<a href="http://scott-schultz.blogspot.com/2009/07/mjwh-intertextuality.html" rel="nofollow">MJ/WH Intertextuality</a></em></abbr></i></p>
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		<title>By: Dianna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this, Alan.  I think sometimes it&#039;s hard to remember to have this sort of Christian love and service around those you know the best - especially if you&#039;re family.  It&#039;s relatively easy to be kind to a stranger, but harder, I think, to be kind and serving to someone you know well.  This is something that&#039;s been a problem for me for years - it&#039;s much easier to say &quot;do it yourself&quot; to family than it is to a stranger.  I know that&#039;s not entirely what you were getting at here, but I think it&#039;s part of the point.

And I think you and I, as teachers, have a unique role in serving others that I can&#039;t wait to explore.  We&#039;re the leaders of the classroom, but we&#039;re also there to serve, which means, in this circumstance, taking the time to listen and understand what the students are getting at.

Thanks for posting this.  It made me think.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Diannas last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://dianndia.blogspot.com/2009/07/okay-so-now-what.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Okay, so now what?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this, Alan.  I think sometimes it&#8217;s hard to remember to have this sort of Christian love and service around those you know the best &#8211; especially if you&#8217;re family.  It&#8217;s relatively easy to be kind to a stranger, but harder, I think, to be kind and serving to someone you know well.  This is something that&#8217;s been a problem for me for years &#8211; it&#8217;s much easier to say &#8220;do it yourself&#8221; to family than it is to a stranger.  I know that&#8217;s not entirely what you were getting at here, but I think it&#8217;s part of the point.</p>
<p>And I think you and I, as teachers, have a unique role in serving others that I can&#8217;t wait to explore.  We&#8217;re the leaders of the classroom, but we&#8217;re also there to serve, which means, in this circumstance, taking the time to listen and understand what the students are getting at.</p>
<p>Thanks for posting this.  It made me think.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Diannas last blog post..<a href="http://dianndia.blogspot.com/2009/07/okay-so-now-what.html" rel="nofollow">Okay, so now what?</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is interested, I owe part of the inspiration for this post (especially the idea that disinterested love is not Christian) to David Bentley Hart&#039;s book, The Beauty Of The Infinite: The Aesthetics Of Christian Truth, which is a monster of a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested, I owe part of the inspiration for this post (especially the idea that disinterested love is not Christian) to David Bentley Hart&#8217;s book, The Beauty Of The Infinite: The Aesthetics Of Christian Truth, which is a monster of a book.</p>
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