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	<title>Comments on: Heroes and Heroines</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/featured/heroes-and-heroines/#comment-5407</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, 

I suppose I picked this one because I felt it was an issue that Christians don&#039;t often address, and it&#039;s something that has always deeply bothered me about the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>I suppose I picked this one because I felt it was an issue that Christians don&#8217;t often address, and it&#8217;s something that has always deeply bothered me about the series.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/featured/heroes-and-heroines/#comment-5406</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because he wanted you to be able to write about the other topics David.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Danes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/413010569/2008_10_01_old1.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20081006.WhichAuthor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because he wanted you to be able to write about the other topics David.</p>
<p><abbr><em>The Danes last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/413010569/2008_10_01_old1.php" rel="nofollow">20081006.WhichAuthor</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: David Dunham</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dunham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, 

   I couldn&#039;t agree with you more that since the first season Heroes has dropped the ball. But I was wondering, out of all the subjects you could have dealt with in this show, and there are countless, why did you pick this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, </p>
<p>   I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more that since the first season Heroes has dropped the ball. But I was wondering, out of all the subjects you could have dealt with in this show, and there are countless, why did you pick this one?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/featured/heroes-and-heroines/#comment-5292</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dane,

Thanks for putting this discussion in perspective. I sometimes hesitate to make cultural observations like this because it might seem like I am singling out one creation while ignoring all the other examples, but culturally criticism has to start somewhere! And in some ways it is very helpful to work with one example of an issue so that we can deal with concrete examples. Anyway, that was my thinking.

Kris,

Quite possibly.

Leah,

I&#039;m glad you brought up Angela and Mrs. Bennet. I had originally planned on discussing each of the female characters, but in the interest of space I left some out. I agree with your analysis completely. I have some hope for Mrs. Bennet in this season, but for the first two she was a painful caricature of a middle-class stay at home mom. As you point out, the show suggests that mothers are either  middle-class/age airheads or diabolical manipulators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dane,</p>
<p>Thanks for putting this discussion in perspective. I sometimes hesitate to make cultural observations like this because it might seem like I am singling out one creation while ignoring all the other examples, but culturally criticism has to start somewhere! And in some ways it is very helpful to work with one example of an issue so that we can deal with concrete examples. Anyway, that was my thinking.</p>
<p>Kris,</p>
<p>Quite possibly.</p>
<p>Leah,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you brought up Angela and Mrs. Bennet. I had originally planned on discussing each of the female characters, but in the interest of space I left some out. I agree with your analysis completely. I have some hope for Mrs. Bennet in this season, but for the first two she was a painful caricature of a middle-class stay at home mom. As you point out, the show suggests that mothers are either  middle-class/age airheads or diabolical manipulators.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Schroeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-5288&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Kris Michalski&lt;/a&gt; - 
Everyone knows how to be idealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-5288' rel="nofollow">@Kris Michalski</a> &#8211;<br />
Everyone knows how to be idealistic.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Schroeder</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/featured/heroes-and-heroines/#comment-5289</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah Schroeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 19:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The commentator has a compelling point to make about the &quot;Heroines&quot;. And he did not even mention Angela Petrelli by name. While she does add suspense and a quality of confusion popular in many recent television shows, Petrelli, is a cold-hearted woman who cares very little for her own children, except when their special abilities aid the &quot;cause&quot; for which she is currently rooting (or perhaps orchestrating). 

Petrelli is proud that she is the mother of such &quot;special&quot; sons and occasionally has jewels of wisdom to present them. For example in the third season when her son Peter has traveled back in time to &quot;fix&quot; the future she explains that he cannot do so in a sterile environment. Peter finally realizes the truth of her words and the possibility of a &quot;butterfly effect&quot; and goes back to his own time.
But her motherly &quot;wisdom&quot; is almost completely voided by her caressing of Gabrielle/Sylar&#039;s face and motherly affection possibly even pride at his abilities not to mention the questions such affection raises about her true motives.

Maybe, being a Christian mother myself gives me particular disdain for Angela Petrelli&#039;s conniving manipulation of her children but I find her as the &quot;matriarchal&quot; character in the show, one of the most disappointing women in Heroes because though she has birthed some amazing children she has absolutely no mother&#039;s heart for them. 

In fact, the other main example of a mother, besides Nicki Sanders, whom the commentator has already addressed is Claire Bennet&#039;s mother who has been a bumbling idiot for most of Claire&#039;s life and is just now starting to come out of the fog. Even though she has mothered Claire for her 16 or 17 years of life she still has no idea how to interact with her gift and no empathy for Claire&#039;s desire to make good decisions.

It is disappointing as a Christian woman and mother to see the role of mothering and women in general demeaned in popular television. With such low expectations of women and specifically mothers constantly set before our society how do we expect to see mom&#039;s maturing into women who raise responsible, intelligent, independent-thinking children capable of making rational decisions such as to whom they ought to vote?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The commentator has a compelling point to make about the &#8220;Heroines&#8221;. And he did not even mention Angela Petrelli by name. While she does add suspense and a quality of confusion popular in many recent television shows, Petrelli, is a cold-hearted woman who cares very little for her own children, except when their special abilities aid the &#8220;cause&#8221; for which she is currently rooting (or perhaps orchestrating). </p>
<p>Petrelli is proud that she is the mother of such &#8220;special&#8221; sons and occasionally has jewels of wisdom to present them. For example in the third season when her son Peter has traveled back in time to &#8220;fix&#8221; the future she explains that he cannot do so in a sterile environment. Peter finally realizes the truth of her words and the possibility of a &#8220;butterfly effect&#8221; and goes back to his own time.<br />
But her motherly &#8220;wisdom&#8221; is almost completely voided by her caressing of Gabrielle/Sylar&#8217;s face and motherly affection possibly even pride at his abilities not to mention the questions such affection raises about her true motives.</p>
<p>Maybe, being a Christian mother myself gives me particular disdain for Angela Petrelli&#8217;s conniving manipulation of her children but I find her as the &#8220;matriarchal&#8221; character in the show, one of the most disappointing women in Heroes because though she has birthed some amazing children she has absolutely no mother&#8217;s heart for them. </p>
<p>In fact, the other main example of a mother, besides Nicki Sanders, whom the commentator has already addressed is Claire Bennet&#8217;s mother who has been a bumbling idiot for most of Claire&#8217;s life and is just now starting to come out of the fog. Even though she has mothered Claire for her 16 or 17 years of life she still has no idea how to interact with her gift and no empathy for Claire&#8217;s desire to make good decisions.</p>
<p>It is disappointing as a Christian woman and mother to see the role of mothering and women in general demeaned in popular television. With such low expectations of women and specifically mothers constantly set before our society how do we expect to see mom&#8217;s maturing into women who raise responsible, intelligent, independent-thinking children capable of making rational decisions such as to whom they ought to vote?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Michalski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Michalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible the writers can&#039;t do better with the characters because they can only write what the know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible the writers can&#8217;t do better with the characters because they can only write what the know?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the trend you&#039;re noticing in &lt;i&gt;Heroes&lt;/i&gt; is just part of a larger trend common to all superhero fiction. The genre itself, long aimed primarily toward adolescent males, has been consistent in portraying women in a sexist way. Their purpose in the scope of the genre has been to 1) titillate, 2) provide an emotional response/character growth experience for the dominant male characters, or 3) to die or be maimed in order to elicit a response in the reader. That a show that pulls from the genre and involves actual creators of superhero fiction would skew towards the similar direction is little surprising. And mostly just kinda sad.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Danes last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/413010569/2008_10_01_old1.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20081006.WhichAuthor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the trend you&#8217;re noticing in <i>Heroes</i> is just part of a larger trend common to all superhero fiction. The genre itself, long aimed primarily toward adolescent males, has been consistent in portraying women in a sexist way. Their purpose in the scope of the genre has been to 1) titillate, 2) provide an emotional response/character growth experience for the dominant male characters, or 3) to die or be maimed in order to elicit a response in the reader. That a show that pulls from the genre and involves actual creators of superhero fiction would skew towards the similar direction is little surprising. And mostly just kinda sad.</p>
<p><abbr><em>The Danes last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nowheresville/~3/413010569/2008_10_01_old1.php" rel="nofollow">20081006.WhichAuthor</a></em></abbr></p>
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