Comments on: What Can You Learn From A 250 Year Old Drink?

By: Brad Ruggles

Brad Ruggles — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:56:17 +0000

Great post! I found you through Shaun Grove’s linkage. I have always loved Guinness but never knew some of the back story. I also just ordered the new book “In Search Of God & Guinness” that talks about some of these same things.

Love the site. Thanks for the great post.

By: Peter P

Peter P — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:41:53 +0000

Great post.

We in ‘the Church’ are often way too obsessed with finding the negatives in things and don’t take the time to sit back and see the positives both for the physical realm and the spiritual one.

By: Living Jubilee

Living Jubilee — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:34:36 +0000

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By: Sam Van Eman

Sam Van Eman — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:22:24 +0000

A well-told story, David. Makes me think of the woman selling health insurance to strippers. Keep up the good work here.

By: Ben Bartlett

Ben Bartlett — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:46:34 +0000

I love the interest this article has gotten!

And yes, David, that’s one key element of my thoughts on abortion (though not the same thing. Obviously the key difference is that alcohol is Scripturally acceptable in moderation, but sinful in excess. Abortion is always wrong, all the time.

However, in both cases our approach needs to recognize that moral change flows from heart change, not the other way around.

By: David Dunham

David Dunham — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:33:54 +0000

That’s a great thought Peter. If you do that we’d love for you to share your experience here and let us know how it worked.

By: Guinness is a Christian drink « Alice the Camel

Guinness is a Christian drink « Alice the Camel — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:22:03 +0000

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By: peter bartlett

peter bartlett — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:59:48 +0000

Being a college student who enjoys a drink every once in a while, I really appreciate the perspective from your article.

I think telling this story is a cool way to engage the campus in something that it is clearly obsessed with(alcohol) and bring the conversation to a spiritual topic.

Great article.

By: Gail Hyatt

Gail Hyatt — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:51:41 +0000

Here is another great blog post about the book: The Search for God and Guinness:
http://joeljmiller.com/2009/09/the-search-for-god-and-guinness/

Stephen Mansfield has done his homework. A really amazing story. (I got a sneak peak.) You can preorder the book now. Launch date is October 13th – only three weeks away!
http://www.amazon.com/Search-God-Guinness-Biography-Changed/dp/1595552693/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_7

By: David Dunham

David Dunham — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:38:28 +0000

Good point, Kim. He analyzed the problem from a practical perspective. I know Ben has advocated a similiar approach with the issue of abortion…or at least I think he has.

By: Kim Quinn

Kim Quinn — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:20:13 +0000

I think the interesting part of this was that his faith was also realistic. By that I mean he realized that he wasn’t going to eliminate the issue of drinking, and that he couldn’t stop people from getting drunk, but perhaps help with one of the consequences and lessen the amount of drunkeness. I think we could do a lot more to help our society if we applied some of his logic to societies problems. No we wouldn’t eliminate them, and no it’s not the ideal we would all like to see, but we might be able to help.

By: David Dunham

David Dunham — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:42:12 +0000

I want to be careful here and clear. My point in this article is not to suggest that eveyrone goes out and drinks some beer. I am not saying anything directly about alcohol one way or the other. Let each man be convinced in his own mind on that subject…I simply wanted to present for consideration a Christian from history not many know about.

By: Dave Schroeder

Dave Schroeder — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:29:50 +0000

And check out your local store…Guinness is on sale right now!

By: David Dunham

David Dunham — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:27:08 +0000

Thanks Curt for posting that. Also see “Arthur’s Round” by Patrick Guinness, that’s a good book too. Of course the basic story of Arthur’s purchasing of St. James Gate etc. can be found at the Guinness web site.

By: Curt

Curt — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:19:08 +0000

Great post David. Stephen Mansfield has written The Search for God and Guinness. It’s available now on Amazon and in book stores everywhere. http://tinyurl.com/nv5y52

By: Kiel

Kiel — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:32:35 +0000

Wow, thanks for sharing this info David! Great post!

By: sdesocio

sdesocio — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:25:17 +0000

Do you have an reference material for this article. Id love to check it out?

By: Richard McElroy

Richard McElroy — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:09:13 +0000

Don’t forget that even while being so heavy and thick, it has approximately the same amount of calories as a lite beer. Way ahead of his time, and didn’t have to make it taste like water to keep it low calorie.