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	<title>Comments on: Getting Our Bearings: A Review of &#8220;The Golden Compass&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three cheers for Scott with the good memory. I didn&#039;t even remember that I had put that together.

I think I&#039;d also note that Pullman isn&#039;t really even writing children&#039;s fiction, but more teen fiction. He uses all sorts of themes that probably wouldn&#039;t be either appropriate or understood by even juniour highers (things like terrible violence and subtle sexuality and intrigue and religious zealotry and science). And once you hit the kind of themes he&#039;s using, you might as well read actual literature (or regular fantasy, if you really feel the need for a fantasy novel).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three cheers for Scott with the good memory. I didn&#8217;t even remember that I had put that together.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;d also note that Pullman isn&#8217;t really even writing children&#8217;s fiction, but more teen fiction. He uses all sorts of themes that probably wouldn&#8217;t be either appropriate or understood by even juniour highers (things like terrible violence and subtle sexuality and intrigue and religious zealotry and science). And once you hit the kind of themes he&#8217;s using, you might as well read actual literature (or regular fantasy, if you really feel the need for a fantasy novel).</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, yes. Excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, yes. Excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he hinted at that &lt;a href=&quot;http://nowheresville.us/2007_08_01_old1.php#7307328009771986987&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he hinted at that <a href="http://nowheresville.us/2007_08_01_old1.php#7307328009771986987" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, what children&#039;s fiction have you enjoyed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth, what children&#8217;s fiction have you enjoyed?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That they won so many awards is evidence of the deplorable state of children&#039;s fiction, I guess.

I&#039;d certainly give Pullman an award for world building (at least for Lyra&#039;s world), but the overall story (if we include &lt;i&gt;Subtle Knife&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Amber Spyglass&lt;/i&gt;) really just wasn&#039;t that compelling. I imagine a more competent author (and perhaps a more engaged editor) could have taken the direction of Pullman&#039;s story but crafted something honestly engaging, but &lt;i&gt;The Subtle Knife&lt;/i&gt; was just boring (with brief glimmers of inspiration) and &lt;i&gt;The Amber Spyglass&lt;/i&gt; has just been painful as it moves from uninteresting storyline to uninteresting storyline (with brief glimmers of inspiration). And the especially contrived that makes up the last 300 pages of book three... oy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That they won so many awards is evidence of the deplorable state of children&#8217;s fiction, I guess.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d certainly give Pullman an award for world building (at least for Lyra&#8217;s world), but the overall story (if we include <i>Subtle Knife</i> and <i>Amber Spyglass</i>) really just wasn&#8217;t that compelling. I imagine a more competent author (and perhaps a more engaged editor) could have taken the direction of Pullman&#8217;s story but crafted something honestly engaging, but <i>The Subtle Knife</i> was just boring (with brief glimmers of inspiration) and <i>The Amber Spyglass</i> has just been painful as it moves from uninteresting storyline to uninteresting storyline (with brief glimmers of inspiration). And the especially contrived that makes up the last 300 pages of book three&#8230; oy.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When Bears Attack.&quot; Ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When Bears Attack.&#8221; Ha.</p>
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		<title>By: David Dunham</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Dunham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dane,

   I agree that his prose is often childish and melodramatic. He can be rather ridiculous, tedious, and, as Rich said, &quot;preachy.&quot; 

The books, however, have won numerous literary awards in Children&#039;s fiction, and I tend to agree with those awards that he has done a masterful job of creating a world and an overall story that is compelling and attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dane,</p>
<p>   I agree that his prose is often childish and melodramatic. He can be rather ridiculous, tedious, and, as Rich said, &#8220;preachy.&#8221; </p>
<p>The books, however, have won numerous literary awards in Children&#8217;s fiction, and I tend to agree with those awards that he has done a masterful job of creating a world and an overall story that is compelling and attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, the first one isn&#039;t even great. While the world he created is clearly a development of a powerful imagination, Pullman is definitely not a strong writer. His characters are uniformly flat, without development or depth. In the space of the first book, the only character I ever grew to take interest in was the bear, Iorek Byrnison. Everyone else exists wholly as pale plot devices. The books, even the first, are entirely forgettable.

I am very far from thinking Rowling&#039;s stuff is the best out there, but even her work is leagues ahead of Pullman. One wishes that he had more interest in Tolkien or Lewis, because then, even if he disagreed with their worldviews, he may have learned a thing or two about writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, the first one isn&#8217;t even great. While the world he created is clearly a development of a powerful imagination, Pullman is definitely not a strong writer. His characters are uniformly flat, without development or depth. In the space of the first book, the only character I ever grew to take interest in was the bear, Iorek Byrnison. Everyone else exists wholly as pale plot devices. The books, even the first, are entirely forgettable.</p>
<p>I am very far from thinking Rowling&#8217;s stuff is the best out there, but even her work is leagues ahead of Pullman. One wishes that he had more interest in Tolkien or Lewis, because then, even if he disagreed with their worldviews, he may have learned a thing or two about writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard secular book critics say the first one is great, but they decline quickly starting with the second one because of all the preachiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard secular book critics say the first one is great, but they decline quickly starting with the second one because of all the preachiness.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people keep saying that the books are very well written? They aren&#039;t. They are mediocre at best.

&lt;i&gt;The Golden Compass&lt;/i&gt; was acceptable if a little flat, but the latter two books are painful to get through. They&#039;re trash fiction, meant to be read while you&#039;re on the pot. And honestly, there&#039;s much more worthwhile reads to occupy &quot;throne time.&quot;

I was sold a bill of goods by all the people who kept on about how good these books were despite their atheism (I&#039;m looking at you Overstreet and Mohler). I have ninety pages to go in the last book and &lt;i&gt;if&lt;/i&gt; I finish it, I&#039;m going to hate myself for wasting the lunch break it&#039;ll take me to finish it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people keep saying that the books are very well written? They aren&#8217;t. They are mediocre at best.</p>
<p><i>The Golden Compass</i> was acceptable if a little flat, but the latter two books are painful to get through. They&#8217;re trash fiction, meant to be read while you&#8217;re on the pot. And honestly, there&#8217;s much more worthwhile reads to occupy &#8220;throne time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was sold a bill of goods by all the people who kept on about how good these books were despite their atheism (I&#8217;m looking at you Overstreet and Mohler). I have ninety pages to go in the last book and <i>if</i> I finish it, I&#8217;m going to hate myself for wasting the lunch break it&#8217;ll take me to finish it.</p>
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