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	<title>Comments on: God-Clause: Reflections on Santa and Theology Proper</title>
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		<title>By: Geoffrey Seven</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoffrey Seven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be worth unpacking the way the Theology of Santa is elaborated through the various TV Christmas specials that we see throughout the season -- e.g. &quot;Charlie Brown Christmas, &quot;Rudolph,&quot; &quot;Year Without a Santa Claus,&quot; &quot;T&#039;was the Night Before Christmas,&quot; &quot;Santa Claus is Coming to Town,&quot; etc.  Even &quot;How the Grinch Stole Christmas.&quot;  

There seems to be a progression (or deterioration, depending on your POV) happening.  Grinch and Rudolph replace the explicitly Christian message of &quot;Charlie Brown&quot; with some vague &quot;Christmas values&quot; that are about togetherness, tolerance, and giving.  Giving is construed in basically commercial terms -- Santa&#039;s workshop stands in for the machinery of capitalist production (not to get all Marxist or anything)and the &quot;magic&quot; of Christmas, the truth at its core, the big payoff, is about getting stuff.  Meanwhile, the harsh realities of production and distribution (think of underpaid child factory workers in China, applying lead paint to your kid&#039;s Thomas the Tank Engine toys) are magically &quot;disappeared&quot; into cozy images of happy elves wielding tiny hammers.

Then in &quot;Year Without a Santa Claus&quot; &quot;T&#039;was the Night&quot; and &quot;Santa Clause is Coming to Town,&quot; &quot;faith&quot; is reinterpreted as faith in -- the existence of Santa Claus!  &quot;You gotta believe,&quot; these shows urge us, and what we gotta believe in is Santa himself, or the spirit he supposedly embodies of, well, togetherness, tolerance and giving.  Most of all, giving.  

Even when I was a kid, I wondered about it.  At the end of &quot;Grinch,&quot; we are told the big lesson the Grinch learns is that &quot;Christmas doesn&#039;t come from a store.&quot;  I remember asking my dad, &quot;Well if that&#039;s true, then how come he has to bring all the presents back at the end?&quot;  Even then, I realized that we needed the Grinch to bring back the gifts; and that the ostensible message of the show, and its narrative trajectory completely contradicted each other.  Or perhaps it would be more correct to say that they offer a new logic of Christmas -- one distinctly at odds with the Christian world view.  It goes something like this:

Christmas doesn&#039;t come from a store.  Instead, you gotta &quot;believe&quot; (in  togetherness, tolerance, giving, Santa Claus) -- and then you&#039;ll get your stuff anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be worth unpacking the way the Theology of Santa is elaborated through the various TV Christmas specials that we see throughout the season &#8212; e.g. &#8220;Charlie Brown Christmas, &#8220;Rudolph,&#8221; &#8220;Year Without a Santa Claus,&#8221; &#8220;T&#8217;was the Night Before Christmas,&#8221; &#8220;Santa Claus is Coming to Town,&#8221; etc.  Even &#8220;How the Grinch Stole Christmas.&#8221;  </p>
<p>There seems to be a progression (or deterioration, depending on your POV) happening.  Grinch and Rudolph replace the explicitly Christian message of &#8220;Charlie Brown&#8221; with some vague &#8220;Christmas values&#8221; that are about togetherness, tolerance, and giving.  Giving is construed in basically commercial terms &#8212; Santa&#8217;s workshop stands in for the machinery of capitalist production (not to get all Marxist or anything)and the &#8220;magic&#8221; of Christmas, the truth at its core, the big payoff, is about getting stuff.  Meanwhile, the harsh realities of production and distribution (think of underpaid child factory workers in China, applying lead paint to your kid&#8217;s Thomas the Tank Engine toys) are magically &#8220;disappeared&#8221; into cozy images of happy elves wielding tiny hammers.</p>
<p>Then in &#8220;Year Without a Santa Claus&#8221; &#8220;T&#8217;was the Night&#8221; and &#8220;Santa Clause is Coming to Town,&#8221; &#8220;faith&#8221; is reinterpreted as faith in &#8212; the existence of Santa Claus!  &#8220;You gotta believe,&#8221; these shows urge us, and what we gotta believe in is Santa himself, or the spirit he supposedly embodies of, well, togetherness, tolerance and giving.  Most of all, giving.  </p>
<p>Even when I was a kid, I wondered about it.  At the end of &#8220;Grinch,&#8221; we are told the big lesson the Grinch learns is that &#8220;Christmas doesn&#8217;t come from a store.&#8221;  I remember asking my dad, &#8220;Well if that&#8217;s true, then how come he has to bring all the presents back at the end?&#8221;  Even then, I realized that we needed the Grinch to bring back the gifts; and that the ostensible message of the show, and its narrative trajectory completely contradicted each other.  Or perhaps it would be more correct to say that they offer a new logic of Christmas &#8212; one distinctly at odds with the Christian world view.  It goes something like this:</p>
<p>Christmas doesn&#8217;t come from a store.  Instead, you gotta &#8220;believe&#8221; (in  togetherness, tolerance, giving, Santa Claus) &#8212; and then you&#8217;ll get your stuff anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Vanhorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob Vanhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if the stories of St. Nicholas are true, then he was also a fan of unmerited favor.  That got lost on our Santa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if the stories of St. Nicholas are true, then he was also a fan of unmerited favor.  That got lost on our Santa.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Vanhorn</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Vanhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, finally someone who speaks my language on the Santa thing.

While the Santa we have today shares some attributes of God, the big difference is that Santa is works based.  Karma based even.  Be good and get rewarded.  Do bad and get left out.

The gospel is grace.  I want my son to know that I give good gifts because he is my son.

Santa&#039;s message (&amp; religions message), &quot;Do good and be accepted&quot;

God&#039;s message, &quot;Through grace, in Christ you are accepted, and through the Spirit you will grow in doing good&quot;

Santa gets it backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, finally someone who speaks my language on the Santa thing.</p>
<p>While the Santa we have today shares some attributes of God, the big difference is that Santa is works based.  Karma based even.  Be good and get rewarded.  Do bad and get left out.</p>
<p>The gospel is grace.  I want my son to know that I give good gifts because he is my son.</p>
<p>Santa&#8217;s message (&amp; religions message), &#8220;Do good and be accepted&#8221;</p>
<p>God&#8217;s message, &#8220;Through grace, in Christ you are accepted, and through the Spirit you will grow in doing good&#8221;</p>
<p>Santa gets it backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Christmas, Religion and Politcs: Roundup for 12/21 &#124; Said At Southern Seminary</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Christmas, Religion and Politcs: Roundup for 12/21 &#124; Said At Southern Seminary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Dunham similarly tackles the question of &#8220;God-Claus&#8220;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Dunham similarly tackles the question of &#8220;God-Claus&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is really weird. Sorry. I&#039;ll try to get to the bottom of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is really weird. Sorry. I&#8217;ll try to get to the bottom of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there was at least two comments from Adena, and I think one from someone else. I noticed they vanished a few days ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there was at least two comments from Adena, and I think one from someone else. I noticed they vanished a few days ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea what happened to them. Were they there and then went away later?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea what happened to them. Were they there and then went away later?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/god-clause-reflections-on-santa-and-theology-proper/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. I think Rich has it in for both you and Ben Bartlett - since your three comments were done in most ignominiously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. I think Rich has it in for both you and Ben Bartlett &#8211; since your three comments were done in most ignominiously.</p>
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		<title>By: Adena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did my comments get deleted on purpose?

*frump face*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did my comments get deleted on purpose?</p>
<p>*frump face*</p>
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		<title>By: RD Powell</title>
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		<dc:creator>RD Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhh, someone else understands. Good writeup dave.
/rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh, someone else understands. Good writeup dave.<br />
/rick</p>
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		<title>By: ChestertonianRambler</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChestertonianRambler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He knows when you&#039;ve been sleeping
He knows when you&#039;re awake
He knows when you&#039;ve been bad or good
So be good...

           ...for goodness&#039; sake.&quot;

Did anyone else find these lyrics TERRIFYING in their theological implications?

I mean, if he knows all that and is good, and if you&#039;re being constantly reminded of it...CAN one even be good for goodness&#039; sake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He knows when you&#8217;ve been sleeping<br />
He knows when you&#8217;re awake<br />
He knows when you&#8217;ve been bad or good<br />
So be good&#8230;</p>
<p>           &#8230;for goodness&#8217; sake.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did anyone else find these lyrics TERRIFYING in their theological implications?</p>
<p>I mean, if he knows all that and is good, and if you&#8217;re being constantly reminded of it&#8230;CAN one even be good for goodness&#8217; sake?</p>
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