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	<title>Comments on: Wearing Our Faith</title>
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		<title>By: DowntoEarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>DowntoEarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with a lot of what was said, the problem is what audience it reaches, most of the shirts that are made are parodies that most people in their right mind wouldn&#039;t wear. Myself as youth I don&#039;t like it, definitely wouldn&#039;t buy it. We should be the testimony and not our shirts, and there is a way to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with a lot of what was said, the problem is what audience it reaches, most of the shirts that are made are parodies that most people in their right mind wouldn&#8217;t wear. Myself as youth I don&#8217;t like it, definitely wouldn&#8217;t buy it. We should be the testimony and not our shirts, and there is a way to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Gabriel - People have come to Christ because of the Holocaust. That doesn&#039;t mean that part of our program to evangelize ought to be to hold annual Holocausts. Just because God uses something in someone&#039;s life to brign them to him doesn&#039;t make the vehicle a good thing. If people come to Christ through a bumper sticker or through mormon preaching, that doesn&#039;t justify the use of those things. It may just mean that God sometimes uses harmful things despite themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Gabriel &#8211; People have come to Christ because of the Holocaust. That doesn&#8217;t mean that part of our program to evangelize ought to be to hold annual Holocausts. Just because God uses something in someone&#8217;s life to brign them to him doesn&#8217;t make the vehicle a good thing. If people come to Christ through a bumper sticker or through mormon preaching, that doesn&#8217;t justify the use of those things. It may just mean that God sometimes uses harmful things despite themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, I think that anyone can muster up a complaint about anything. Magazines are used for both evil and good. Bumper stickers and the like are often quite effective in planting seeds in the minds of those who see them.. I know of an ex-atheist who was of a mindset of challenging God to show him that he existed. It was a simple bumper sticker with a scriptural quote which led him to Christ. 

God meets people where they are, in the strangest of situations or 

I enjoy reading stories of how people came to find Christ, and one I always remember is of a man was sitting at a bar who happened to overhear something someone said in passing. That was the seed.


As Christians we are not to be condemning everything all the time. 

Someone who wears at-shirt or places a bumper sticker on a car with a good message will never know just God used that seed to plant it upon good ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, I think that anyone can muster up a complaint about anything. Magazines are used for both evil and good. Bumper stickers and the like are often quite effective in planting seeds in the minds of those who see them.. I know of an ex-atheist who was of a mindset of challenging God to show him that he existed. It was a simple bumper sticker with a scriptural quote which led him to Christ. </p>
<p>God meets people where they are, in the strangest of situations or </p>
<p>I enjoy reading stories of how people came to find Christ, and one I always remember is of a man was sitting at a bar who happened to overhear something someone said in passing. That was the seed.</p>
<p>As Christians we are not to be condemning everything all the time. </p>
<p>Someone who wears at-shirt or places a bumper sticker on a car with a good message will never know just God used that seed to plant it upon good ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian-
Judging from the quality of your comment and the site you linked from, I am a bit suspicious that you didn&#039;t actually read the post, but I hope I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christian-<br />
Judging from the quality of your comment and the site you linked from, I am a bit suspicious that you didn&#8217;t actually read the post, but I hope I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Necklaces</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Necklaces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 05:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, I really enjoyed it. I will have to bookmark this site for later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, I really enjoyed it. I will have to bookmark this site for later.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I am a little late for this party but I am new to blogging. 

I fall on the other side of this discussion.  I own a Christian Clothing Company.  Our clothing line empowers the believer to be a better witness for Christ.

We have no clever sayings, just a drop of blood on a spike. We instruct believers to pray before wearing our clothes (trying to involve them in basic Christianity) and ask God to have someone, they come in contact with, ask a question.

As a personal testimony, when I wear the clothes with the logo on them, it helps Me draw closer to God.  I am now able to &quot;put on Christ&quot; daily, spiritually and physically. I have had 100&#039;s of conversations about Jesus. These conversations were not started by me, but by someone asking a question. &quot;What is that on your shirt?&quot;

Why would a true believer not support a Christian Clothing company if the companies&#039; heart was for the lost and not primarily for profit? 

Since the fall of Adam, our nakedness must be covered.  Why not cover it with something that will lead others to Christ and draw us closer to God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I am a little late for this party but I am new to blogging. </p>
<p>I fall on the other side of this discussion.  I own a Christian Clothing Company.  Our clothing line empowers the believer to be a better witness for Christ.</p>
<p>We have no clever sayings, just a drop of blood on a spike. We instruct believers to pray before wearing our clothes (trying to involve them in basic Christianity) and ask God to have someone, they come in contact with, ask a question.</p>
<p>As a personal testimony, when I wear the clothes with the logo on them, it helps Me draw closer to God.  I am now able to &#8220;put on Christ&#8221; daily, spiritually and physically. I have had 100&#8242;s of conversations about Jesus. These conversations were not started by me, but by someone asking a question. &#8220;What is that on your shirt?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why would a true believer not support a Christian Clothing company if the companies&#8217; heart was for the lost and not primarily for profit? </p>
<p>Since the fall of Adam, our nakedness must be covered.  Why not cover it with something that will lead others to Christ and draw us closer to God?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex-
Thanks for reading! I always enjoy hearing your views. You bring up to good points. Let me see if I have understood them correctly: 

1. Christian clothing is good because it is a source of encouragement to other believers. 

2. Christian clothing is good because it helps identify us as believers, therefore reminding us to be lights in the world.

To reply to the first idea, I would say we need to keep several things in mind. First, while it may be a source of encouragement, not only believers will see us in these shirts. In other words, since clothing is public by nature, it cannot only function to encourage our team, it will always function (even if secondarily) to challenge the beliefs of the opposite team. 

Take the example of a Raider&#039;s shirt. If you see someone wearing a Raider&#039;s shirt, you would automatically know he&#039;s making two statements: &quot;Go Raiders&quot; and &quot;Other teams are not as good as the Raiders.&quot; The shirt has both a positive and a negative statement inherent in its design. And the same thing goes for (some, not all) Christian clothing: it both supports the Christian message, and challenges/excludes others. By nature, in other words, Christian clothing is unable to only encourage believers. 

Secondly, even if we believe shirts could be a source of encouragement, they would hardly be a good source of encouragement. There are so many other more personal, sincere, intimate, and loving ways to encourage believers (outlined in Scripture), that we simply don&#039;t need tee-shirts. 

In fact, there is a danger in viewing tee-shirts as fulfilling our obligation to witness to the world or encourage the Brethren, it can make us apathetic. We could begin to see our obligations as filled through our clothing choices rather than our biblically mandated actions.

To answer your second point, I would point back to John 13:34-35. Christ has already told us exactly how we should identify ourselves to the world. If we want an extra level of scrutiny for our actions, then we should strive to live lives that are so marked by brotherly love that it is evident to all who our Saviour is. In comparison to loving one another, how effective is an item of clothing?

And of course, please remember that I don&#039;t think these issues to be matters of &quot;sin;&quot; I believe this is an issue of &quot;good&quot;/&quot;better&quot;/&quot;best&quot; not &quot;right&quot; vs &quot;wrong.&quot; 

&quot;What is the best way to glorify God through our clothing choices?&quot; is the question, not &quot;is it sin to wear cheesy clothing?&quot; (I don&#039;t want to sound legalistic here...)

Thanks again for reading. 

-alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex-<br />
Thanks for reading! I always enjoy hearing your views. You bring up to good points. Let me see if I have understood them correctly: </p>
<p>1. Christian clothing is good because it is a source of encouragement to other believers. </p>
<p>2. Christian clothing is good because it helps identify us as believers, therefore reminding us to be lights in the world.</p>
<p>To reply to the first idea, I would say we need to keep several things in mind. First, while it may be a source of encouragement, not only believers will see us in these shirts. In other words, since clothing is public by nature, it cannot only function to encourage our team, it will always function (even if secondarily) to challenge the beliefs of the opposite team. </p>
<p>Take the example of a Raider&#8217;s shirt. If you see someone wearing a Raider&#8217;s shirt, you would automatically know he&#8217;s making two statements: &#8220;Go Raiders&#8221; and &#8220;Other teams are not as good as the Raiders.&#8221; The shirt has both a positive and a negative statement inherent in its design. And the same thing goes for (some, not all) Christian clothing: it both supports the Christian message, and challenges/excludes others. By nature, in other words, Christian clothing is unable to only encourage believers. </p>
<p>Secondly, even if we believe shirts could be a source of encouragement, they would hardly be a good source of encouragement. There are so many other more personal, sincere, intimate, and loving ways to encourage believers (outlined in Scripture), that we simply don&#8217;t need tee-shirts. </p>
<p>In fact, there is a danger in viewing tee-shirts as fulfilling our obligation to witness to the world or encourage the Brethren, it can make us apathetic. We could begin to see our obligations as filled through our clothing choices rather than our biblically mandated actions.</p>
<p>To answer your second point, I would point back to John 13:34-35. Christ has already told us exactly how we should identify ourselves to the world. If we want an extra level of scrutiny for our actions, then we should strive to live lives that are so marked by brotherly love that it is evident to all who our Saviour is. In comparison to loving one another, how effective is an item of clothing?</p>
<p>And of course, please remember that I don&#8217;t think these issues to be matters of &#8220;sin;&#8221; I believe this is an issue of &#8220;good&#8221;/&#8221;better&#8221;/&#8221;best&#8221; not &#8220;right&#8221; vs &#8220;wrong.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;What is the best way to glorify God through our clothing choices?&#8221; is the question, not &#8220;is it sin to wear cheesy clothing?&#8221; (I don&#8217;t want to sound legalistic here&#8230;)</p>
<p>Thanks again for reading. </p>
<p>-alan</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Branning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Branning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, me and my wife were having a discussion about this topic before church and I came to realize something: sometimes we wear shirts geared just to encourage &quot;our team&quot; (I hate using that phrase but bear with me) as opposed to converting the &quot;other team.&quot; In other words, I may wear an ultra-cheesy shirt (&quot;Porn is for Posers&quot; or something like that) that I know will be a reminder to me and maybe a subtle message to the friend I&#039;m having lunch with that day. 

On a separate note, wearing Christian clothing sends the message &quot;I am a Chrisian&quot; and draws an extra level of scrutiny to your actions. I think any negative effects that our branded/messaging clothing may send will be extremely minimal and outweighed by the positive benefits of identifying yourself (and keeping you on your toes).

Very well written and thought out piece, by the way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, me and my wife were having a discussion about this topic before church and I came to realize something: sometimes we wear shirts geared just to encourage &#8220;our team&#8221; (I hate using that phrase but bear with me) as opposed to converting the &#8220;other team.&#8221; In other words, I may wear an ultra-cheesy shirt (&#8220;Porn is for Posers&#8221; or something like that) that I know will be a reminder to me and maybe a subtle message to the friend I&#8217;m having lunch with that day. </p>
<p>On a separate note, wearing Christian clothing sends the message &#8220;I am a Chrisian&#8221; and draws an extra level of scrutiny to your actions. I think any negative effects that our branded/messaging clothing may send will be extremely minimal and outweighed by the positive benefits of identifying yourself (and keeping you on your toes).</p>
<p>Very well written and thought out piece, by the way</p>
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		<title>By: On my low midichlorian count and marketing the Great Commision &#171; In Weakness, Grace Abounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>On my low midichlorian count and marketing the Great Commision &#171; In Weakness, Grace Abounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] catch up on my blog reading a bit. Below is an excerpt from a post at Christ and Pop Culture titled Wearing Our Faith. As an aside, I found out about the aforementioned post at Jolly Blogger. Good stuff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lunch Time Links for 2-12-08 &#124; Smart Pastor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lunch Time Links for 2-12-08 &#124; Smart Pastor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Christ and Culture had a piece up on marketing faith I found to be quite good. I agree that a tee-shirt or bumper-sticker lacks persuasive force but some of their arguments for this were new to me and thoughtful. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Christ and Culture had a piece up on marketing faith I found to be quite good. I agree that a tee-shirt or bumper-sticker lacks persuasive force but some of their arguments for this were new to me and thoughtful. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeffberg.us &#187; On Wearing your faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffberg.us &#187; On Wearing your faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I recommend checking out this article.&#160; It is on the ability (or lack there of) of bumper stickers and tee-shirts to make an impact.&#160; You can read it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I recommend checking out this article.&nbsp; It is on the ability (or lack there of) of bumper stickers and tee-shirts to make an impact.&nbsp; You can read it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jeffberg.us &#187; On Wearing your faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffberg.us &#187; On Wearing your faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Article: http://www.christandpopculture.com/general-culture/wearing-our-faith-the-purpose-and-effectiveness-o... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think a truly Christian approach to fashion (for example) would embrace clothing as a human good, as a sort of glory, given by God. Exploiting the aesthetic for the sake of (evangelistic) campaigning seems to be a much more significant and broader problem.&quot;

Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think a truly Christian approach to fashion (for example) would embrace clothing as a human good, as a sort of glory, given by God. Exploiting the aesthetic for the sake of (evangelistic) campaigning seems to be a much more significant and broader problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
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		<description>Sorry to be the hit-and-run commenter, Alan. I just got back in town.

I hear what you&#039;re saying, but I find it interesting that for every criticism of snooty Christian &quot;high&quot; art (and I can&#039;t quite say that I&#039;ve ever encountered this), I&#039;ve seen a hundred criticisms of Christian tees and bumper stickers. I find this to be more than just a coincidence. I think there&#039;s a sort elitist thrill that comes with condescension and I think the fact that common &quot;art&quot; is so common gives a certain appeal to taking the noble high road &lt;i&gt;against&lt;/i&gt; such &quot;vulgarity&quot;. And I don&#039;t say this as someone who hasn&#039;t fallen prey to this sort of thing. I just think it might be a mistaken cause.

I agree with you that there&#039;s a question of good-better-best at stake, but I don&#039;t hear you saying that there&#039;s anything good &lt;i&gt;per se&lt;/i&gt; about Jesus fish on the back of cars.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I actually agree with you that the stuff is a trite presentation of the Gospel, but frankly, to me, the crime isn&#039;t that our bumpers and tees are littered with irrational and commercialized discourse about the Gospel. Rather, the most unfortunate aspect of these things seems to be that they comprehend things like clothing to be merely means to ends that only find their value as vehicles of propositions and ideas.

I think a truly Christian approach to fashion (for example) would embrace clothing as a human good, as a sort of glory, given by God. Exploiting the aesthetic for the sake of (evangelistic) campaigning seems to be a much more significant and broader problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be the hit-and-run commenter, Alan. I just got back in town.</p>
<p>I hear what you&#8217;re saying, but I find it interesting that for every criticism of snooty Christian &#8220;high&#8221; art (and I can&#8217;t quite say that I&#8217;ve ever encountered this), I&#8217;ve seen a hundred criticisms of Christian tees and bumper stickers. I find this to be more than just a coincidence. I think there&#8217;s a sort elitist thrill that comes with condescension and I think the fact that common &#8220;art&#8221; is so common gives a certain appeal to taking the noble high road <i>against</i> such &#8220;vulgarity&#8221;. And I don&#8217;t say this as someone who hasn&#8217;t fallen prey to this sort of thing. I just think it might be a mistaken cause.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there&#8217;s a question of good-better-best at stake, but I don&#8217;t hear you saying that there&#8217;s anything good <i>per se</i> about Jesus fish on the back of cars.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I actually agree with you that the stuff is a trite presentation of the Gospel, but frankly, to me, the crime isn&#8217;t that our bumpers and tees are littered with irrational and commercialized discourse about the Gospel. Rather, the most unfortunate aspect of these things seems to be that they comprehend things like clothing to be merely means to ends that only find their value as vehicles of propositions and ideas.</p>
<p>I think a truly Christian approach to fashion (for example) would embrace clothing as a human good, as a sort of glory, given by God. Exploiting the aesthetic for the sake of (evangelistic) campaigning seems to be a much more significant and broader problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I don&#039;t mean to insinuate that wearing a Christian tee-shirt is equivalent to preaching out of envy or rivalry. I think Paul&#039;s attitude towards those people (critical, but thankful) is applicable to our discussion, but there is still a difference. Those people were clearly in sin, while it is not a sin to wear a Christian tee-shirt. We&#039;re talking about an issue of good-better-best, not good or bad.

Just wanted to clarify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t mean to insinuate that wearing a Christian tee-shirt is equivalent to preaching out of envy or rivalry. I think Paul&#8217;s attitude towards those people (critical, but thankful) is applicable to our discussion, but there is still a difference. Those people were clearly in sin, while it is not a sin to wear a Christian tee-shirt. We&#8217;re talking about an issue of good-better-best, not good or bad.</p>
<p>Just wanted to clarify.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone who has been responding. Some really good points have been made. 

Robert-
I believe that the best way to share the Gospel (particular in the US) is to built intimate relationships with people, demonstrate Christ&#039;s love, and speak honestly about our beliefs. But I don&#039;t want to go down a rabbit trail of discussing various stances on evangelism. 

On the issue of Paul, I have to disagree with you when you say that &quot;Paul would use anything he could to get to share Jesus.&quot; Paul only uses a limited number of things to share the Gospel. In addition, he never tells us that we can share the Gospel in any manner that we like. 

The verse in 1st Cor is addressing the idea that we should not let our liberty become a stumbling block to others. In other words, if we need to adopt a cultural custom in order to be acceptable in a culture, then we should. But tee-shirts don&#039;t apply here. Paul would have offended the Jews by eating certain meats, but we don&#039;t offend anyone by not wearing Christian tee-shirts. So I don&#039;t think this verse is applicable. 

However, Paul&#039;s words in Philippians 1:15-18 do directly apply:
&lt;blockquote&gt;15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think this is the proper attitude to have concerning this whole issue. Paul says here that the most important thing is that Christ is proclaimed. Even if the method is flawed or the intentions are wrong, if Christ is proclaimed, praise God! But notice that Paul still criticizes these people. Paul says that they are motivated by envy and rivalry and a desire to hurt him. There is a balance here. Paul can be thankful that Christ is proclaimed while still identifying the inappropriateness of the method. The implication here is that Paul wants these people to continue preaching the Gospel, but to do it in a way that is more appropriate. 

In a similar way I think we can be thankful to God that Christ is proclaimed through stickers and shirts, while still calling into question the appropriateness and effectiveness of these methods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone who has been responding. Some really good points have been made. </p>
<p>Robert-<br />
I believe that the best way to share the Gospel (particular in the US) is to built intimate relationships with people, demonstrate Christ&#8217;s love, and speak honestly about our beliefs. But I don&#8217;t want to go down a rabbit trail of discussing various stances on evangelism. </p>
<p>On the issue of Paul, I have to disagree with you when you say that &#8220;Paul would use anything he could to get to share Jesus.&#8221; Paul only uses a limited number of things to share the Gospel. In addition, he never tells us that we can share the Gospel in any manner that we like. </p>
<p>The verse in 1st Cor is addressing the idea that we should not let our liberty become a stumbling block to others. In other words, if we need to adopt a cultural custom in order to be acceptable in a culture, then we should. But tee-shirts don&#8217;t apply here. Paul would have offended the Jews by eating certain meats, but we don&#8217;t offend anyone by not wearing Christian tee-shirts. So I don&#8217;t think this verse is applicable. </p>
<p>However, Paul&#8217;s words in Philippians 1:15-18 do directly apply:</p>
<blockquote><p>15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of rivalry, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this is the proper attitude to have concerning this whole issue. Paul says here that the most important thing is that Christ is proclaimed. Even if the method is flawed or the intentions are wrong, if Christ is proclaimed, praise God! But notice that Paul still criticizes these people. Paul says that they are motivated by envy and rivalry and a desire to hurt him. There is a balance here. Paul can be thankful that Christ is proclaimed while still identifying the inappropriateness of the method. The implication here is that Paul wants these people to continue preaching the Gospel, but to do it in a way that is more appropriate. </p>
<p>In a similar way I think we can be thankful to God that Christ is proclaimed through stickers and shirts, while still calling into question the appropriateness and effectiveness of these methods.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Brummett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Brummett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree with you more.  I believe we should share the gospel of Jesus Christ just as we are called to do.  As you may or may not know I like wearing T-Shirts and since I am going to wear one it might as well be one that promotes something I love or believe in.  However that should never substitute sharing my faith in Christ.  But let&#039;s be honest do we share the gospel effectively like we should.  I am amshamed to say I do not.  Alan have you effectively shared the gospel of Jesus Christ with anyone today, this week, this month, or year.  And if so how did you do it.  Did you just walk up to them and begin telling them about Jesus or did you use some way to work into it.  Brother Paul would use anything he could to get to share Jesus even an alter for the unknown god. 1 COR 9:22 says: To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.  Anyway sometimes my wearing a christian T-Shirt allows me to get into a conversation about Jesus and that can&#039;t be bad, right.  God bless y&#039;all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more.  I believe we should share the gospel of Jesus Christ just as we are called to do.  As you may or may not know I like wearing T-Shirts and since I am going to wear one it might as well be one that promotes something I love or believe in.  However that should never substitute sharing my faith in Christ.  But let&#8217;s be honest do we share the gospel effectively like we should.  I am amshamed to say I do not.  Alan have you effectively shared the gospel of Jesus Christ with anyone today, this week, this month, or year.  And if so how did you do it.  Did you just walk up to them and begin telling them about Jesus or did you use some way to work into it.  Brother Paul would use anything he could to get to share Jesus even an alter for the unknown god. 1 COR 9:22 says: To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.  Anyway sometimes my wearing a christian T-Shirt allows me to get into a conversation about Jesus and that can&#8217;t be bad, right.  God bless y&#8217;all.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Noble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Noble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure anyone is telling people to repent of tackiness, but to think critically about the way they express their faith.

I would also say that only some of these designs are intended as identity markers, and even when they are they serve other purposes as well.

I think that making this a &quot;high&quot; vs. &quot;low&quot; culture issue is a distraction. It sort of insinuates that since they&#039;re both cultures, we cannot make any value judgments about them. It also assumes a firm definition of &quot;high&quot; and &quot;low&quot; culture.

Fundamentally, whenever any one of us refuses to critically and prayerfully consider the appropriateness of the way we display our faith, then we are being selfish and unloving. This selfishness might play out in tacky &quot;low&quot; art, or snooty &quot;high&quot; art. If you believe that shirts and stickers and &quot;low&quot; culture, then you could say that I am calling into question the &quot;low culture expressions of Christian faith,&quot; but that does not mean that I believe &quot;high&quot; culture to be guiltless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure anyone is telling people to repent of tackiness, but to think critically about the way they express their faith.</p>
<p>I would also say that only some of these designs are intended as identity markers, and even when they are they serve other purposes as well.</p>
<p>I think that making this a &#8220;high&#8221; vs. &#8220;low&#8221; culture issue is a distraction. It sort of insinuates that since they&#8217;re both cultures, we cannot make any value judgments about them. It also assumes a firm definition of &#8220;high&#8221; and &#8220;low&#8221; culture.</p>
<p>Fundamentally, whenever any one of us refuses to critically and prayerfully consider the appropriateness of the way we display our faith, then we are being selfish and unloving. This selfishness might play out in tacky &#8220;low&#8221; art, or snooty &#8220;high&#8221; art. If you believe that shirts and stickers and &#8220;low&#8221; culture, then you could say that I am calling into question the &#8220;low culture expressions of Christian faith,&#8221; but that does not mean that I believe &#8220;high&#8221; culture to be guiltless.</p>
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