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	<title>Comments on: What To Do About Embarrassingly Bad Popular Christian Music</title>
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		<title>By: Drew Bulgarella</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/music/what-we-can-do-about-embarrassingly-bad-popular-christian-music/#comment-553293</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Bulgarella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Scott G.</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/music/what-we-can-do-about-embarrassingly-bad-popular-christian-music/#comment-458374</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber,

From an artist&#039;s perspective, I agree with you completely. Yet, that said...

I do believe that there are distinctives, good and bad, of the experience of the Christian community, the body of Christ. I think that those distinctives are best portrayed by those who are a member of the Christian community. And while Christians can join the rest of the world making redemptive art, there is also a deep need for the more distinctively Christian stuff.

A recent example of this would be Back on Murder, by J. Mark Bertrand. As the story continues, it shows a fascinating portrait of a megachurch--its truly Christian values, its human resistance to those values, its pain and (to a small extent) its glory. Not every work of art by Christians needs to focus on these subjects...but Back on Murder seems a book that would not have likely been produced by someone outside of the Christian community.

It is, to use a word borrowed from art history, &quot;Religious art.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber,</p>
<p>From an artist&#8217;s perspective, I agree with you completely. Yet, that said&#8230;</p>
<p>I do believe that there are distinctives, good and bad, of the experience of the Christian community, the body of Christ. I think that those distinctives are best portrayed by those who are a member of the Christian community. And while Christians can join the rest of the world making redemptive art, there is also a deep need for the more distinctively Christian stuff.</p>
<p>A recent example of this would be Back on Murder, by J. Mark Bertrand. As the story continues, it shows a fascinating portrait of a megachurch&#8211;its truly Christian values, its human resistance to those values, its pain and (to a small extent) its glory. Not every work of art by Christians needs to focus on these subjects&#8230;but Back on Murder seems a book that would not have likely been produced by someone outside of the Christian community.</p>
<p>It is, to use a word borrowed from art history, &#8220;Religious art.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Christian art is defined by the one in whom it exists and by the spirit from which it issues: one says &#039;Christian art&#039; or the &#039;art of a Christian&#039; as one says . . . the &#039;art of man.&#039; It is the art of redeemed humanity . . . Everything belongs to it, the sacred as well as the profane . . . If you want to make a Christian work, then BE Christian, and simply try to make a beautiful work, into which your heart will pass; do not try to &#039;make Christian.&#039;&quot; Jacques Maritian. 

We don&#039;t need good &quot;Christian&quot; music. We need Christians making good music (just like we don&#039;t need &quot;Christian&quot; paintings or novels or photographs; we need Christians creating good art, writing good books, composing good music).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christian art is defined by the one in whom it exists and by the spirit from which it issues: one says &#8216;Christian art&#8217; or the &#8216;art of a Christian&#8217; as one says . . . the &#8216;art of man.&#8217; It is the art of redeemed humanity . . . Everything belongs to it, the sacred as well as the profane . . . If you want to make a Christian work, then BE Christian, and simply try to make a beautiful work, into which your heart will pass; do not try to &#8216;make Christian.&#8217;&#8221; Jacques Maritian. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t need good &#8220;Christian&#8221; music. We need Christians making good music (just like we don&#8217;t need &#8220;Christian&#8221; paintings or novels or photographs; we need Christians creating good art, writing good books, composing good music).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott G.</title>
		<link>http://www.christandpopculture.com/music/what-we-can-do-about-embarrassingly-bad-popular-christian-music/#comment-456787</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

I can understand your feeling, but don&#039;t judge all of CCM by what local stations play. First of all, about the *only* Christian stations that play tend to cater to a very specific niche--unoffensive pop tunes with positive themes that won&#039;t contain offensive content. This is because Christian music is already a small market, and anything that drives listeners away is a no-no. 

The Christian bands that do make excellent music tend to be underground or outside of the mainstream. They also often are overvalued by people (like me) who don&#039;t listen to most CCM but love to hear a band that blends artistic skill with lyrics that reflect Christian distinctives. But they do exist.

In the meantime, I don&#039;t believe CCM radio is going away any time soon. Those who listen to it aren&#039;t looking for musical excellence, so the mediocre talent pool isn&#039;t a problem. What they are looking for is music further from the nihilism or empty sensuality that pervades so much of our cultures art (the better as well as the worse). That isn&#039;t a bad thing, even if it does encourage less-than-excellent music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>I can understand your feeling, but don&#8217;t judge all of CCM by what local stations play. First of all, about the *only* Christian stations that play tend to cater to a very specific niche&#8211;unoffensive pop tunes with positive themes that won&#8217;t contain offensive content. This is because Christian music is already a small market, and anything that drives listeners away is a no-no. </p>
<p>The Christian bands that do make excellent music tend to be underground or outside of the mainstream. They also often are overvalued by people (like me) who don&#8217;t listen to most CCM but love to hear a band that blends artistic skill with lyrics that reflect Christian distinctives. But they do exist.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I don&#8217;t believe CCM radio is going away any time soon. Those who listen to it aren&#8217;t looking for musical excellence, so the mediocre talent pool isn&#8217;t a problem. What they are looking for is music further from the nihilism or empty sensuality that pervades so much of our cultures art (the better as well as the worse). That isn&#8217;t a bad thing, even if it does encourage less-than-excellent music.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am probably a minority of one here, but I for one do not believe there is such a thing as good contemporary Christian music.  I happened to catch about five minutes (if that much) of my local CCM station when I was surfing the dial looking for something else, and the one word that came to mind was &quot;uninspired.&quot;  But at least it was better than the stuff I hear in church.  That stuff is so horrible that for my taste it is only questionably even music.  Quite frankly, I will be surprised if CCM radio does not go off the air completely at least by the end of the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am probably a minority of one here, but I for one do not believe there is such a thing as good contemporary Christian music.  I happened to catch about five minutes (if that much) of my local CCM station when I was surfing the dial looking for something else, and the one word that came to mind was &#8220;uninspired.&#8221;  But at least it was better than the stuff I hear in church.  That stuff is so horrible that for my taste it is only questionably even music.  Quite frankly, I will be surprised if CCM radio does not go off the air completely at least by the end of the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lecrae is terrific.....</description>
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		<title>By: Scott G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 19:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this article, but wonder about standards of good, and the use of decent (rather than groundbreaking) music in Christian circles.

One (somewhat confessional) example: I love Ballydowse, the raucous Yiddish-Celtic-Scots punk band that sang protest songs about America&#039;s foreign policy alongside anthems to marriage or Inklings-tinged medievalist visions of providential history. They certainly can&#039;t be said to be unoriginal, and my temptation is to see them as a great band. This is true even though some of their songs can only be viewed as failed experiments, and individually they aren&#039;t necessarily the most virtuoso of musicians.

I also enjoy Superchick, whose commercially viable, polished (and sometimes sentimentalized) punk anthems tend to celebrate Christian individuality and the sufficiency of women before God (an act, in its own way, of protest against our culture&#039;s determined attempts to define women in terms of their sexual attractiveness and relationship status.)  My temptation is to dismiss them as derivative. They&#039;ve been preceded by more intense punk; no one&#039;s going to be blown away by their sheer innovation, though many people have responded passionately to their message.

The CCM industry at best has encouraged the growth of bands like Superchick while denigrating truly innovative (and politically unpredictable) bands like Ballydowse. I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s productive to just talk about &quot;excellent&quot; music--it *does* make this article seem like a denigration of the megapopular bands of Christendom. I think what we need to say is that there needs to be an attitude for nurturing challenging and difficult music *alongside* the more overtly &quot;positive&quot; and useful music CCM is known for. I don&#039;t think it is a question of mere quality, but also of difficulty, ambiguity, and other things that aren&#039;t necessary for good music, but are necessary for a healthy music-producing community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this article, but wonder about standards of good, and the use of decent (rather than groundbreaking) music in Christian circles.</p>
<p>One (somewhat confessional) example: I love Ballydowse, the raucous Yiddish-Celtic-Scots punk band that sang protest songs about America&#8217;s foreign policy alongside anthems to marriage or Inklings-tinged medievalist visions of providential history. They certainly can&#8217;t be said to be unoriginal, and my temptation is to see them as a great band. This is true even though some of their songs can only be viewed as failed experiments, and individually they aren&#8217;t necessarily the most virtuoso of musicians.</p>
<p>I also enjoy Superchick, whose commercially viable, polished (and sometimes sentimentalized) punk anthems tend to celebrate Christian individuality and the sufficiency of women before God (an act, in its own way, of protest against our culture&#8217;s determined attempts to define women in terms of their sexual attractiveness and relationship status.)  My temptation is to dismiss them as derivative. They&#8217;ve been preceded by more intense punk; no one&#8217;s going to be blown away by their sheer innovation, though many people have responded passionately to their message.</p>
<p>The CCM industry at best has encouraged the growth of bands like Superchick while denigrating truly innovative (and politically unpredictable) bands like Ballydowse. I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s productive to just talk about &#8220;excellent&#8221; music&#8211;it *does* make this article seem like a denigration of the megapopular bands of Christendom. I think what we need to say is that there needs to be an attitude for nurturing challenging and difficult music *alongside* the more overtly &#8220;positive&#8221; and useful music CCM is known for. I don&#8217;t think it is a question of mere quality, but also of difficulty, ambiguity, and other things that aren&#8217;t necessary for good music, but are necessary for a healthy music-producing community.</p>
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		<title>By: Cabagepatchkid79</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cabagepatchkid79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a worship leader, and musician, I often find myself bobbing my head to music. Weather good or bad it is in me! (Music that is). However I find myself feeling discouraged by a good tune and horrible lyric. I think that often times even as Christians we think that we need to proclaim our testimony or our so called message of what we think people need to hear. So we muster up whatever amazing chord progression we can that is catchy and what we think is worth listening to. We then place our “message” to lyrics and shove the two together to make what one might call good music or a song. Though some may have pure intentions others truly are just trying to get noticed. Honestly when leading worship I find myself looking at each song with a few questions in mind. #1 Does this song bring praise? #2 Does this song inspire worship? #3 what is the true message of this song? First off we are created to worship! Though many songs may be good for encouragement or inspiration we are ultimately to bring praise and honor to our King. So with all of this said it is my belief that if the song is focusing on the person rather than what the Lord has done and or is doing or simply bringing honor to Him then it is not worth the time of day. Music can be a very powerful tool to draw people into the kingdom but that was not what it was created for. We should go back to where it all started and if I remember correctly they were songs of praise and adoration to the one and true Living God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a worship leader, and musician, I often find myself bobbing my head to music. Weather good or bad it is in me! (Music that is). However I find myself feeling discouraged by a good tune and horrible lyric. I think that often times even as Christians we think that we need to proclaim our testimony or our so called message of what we think people need to hear. So we muster up whatever amazing chord progression we can that is catchy and what we think is worth listening to. We then place our “message” to lyrics and shove the two together to make what one might call good music or a song. Though some may have pure intentions others truly are just trying to get noticed. Honestly when leading worship I find myself looking at each song with a few questions in mind. #1 Does this song bring praise? #2 Does this song inspire worship? #3 what is the true message of this song? First off we are created to worship! Though many songs may be good for encouragement or inspiration we are ultimately to bring praise and honor to our King. So with all of this said it is my belief that if the song is focusing on the person rather than what the Lord has done and or is doing or simply bringing honor to Him then it is not worth the time of day. Music can be a very powerful tool to draw people into the kingdom but that was not what it was created for. We should go back to where it all started and if I remember correctly they were songs of praise and adoration to the one and true Living God!</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made some really good points in this article, Alan. 
I do my best to practice tip # 2 as often as I can, and in doing so, I have discovered many extremely talented artists such as: 

mewithoutYou

The Chariot 

or MuteMath - who is somewhat Christian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made some really good points in this article, Alan.<br />
I do my best to practice tip # 2 as often as I can, and in doing so, I have discovered many extremely talented artists such as: </p>
<p>mewithoutYou</p>
<p>The Chariot </p>
<p>or MuteMath &#8211; who is somewhat Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;What To Do About Embarrassingly Bad Christian Music&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;What To Do About Embarrassingly Bad Christian Music&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] came across this amusing article on Christ and Pop Culture from a couple years back.  In it, author Alan Noble gives us some helpful hints about how to react [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] came across this amusing article on Christ and Pop Culture from a couple years back.  In it, author Alan Noble gives us some helpful hints about how to react [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jamey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen! Being in the &quot;Christian Music Scene&quot; I run across some not quite stellar bands that seem to be accepted just because they claim to be a &quot;Christian Band&quot;. As for you that say &quot;God loves all praise&quot;, I&#039;m sure this is true but he has to grimmace at some of the horrible bands I have had to endure. I belive we truly honor God in our preporation not just the &quot;performance&quot;. I joke sometimes with my fellow band members that I am going to tell a certain band what I &quot;truly&quot; think about their music, but never do. Of corse you can not limit this the Christian music scene, just watch American Idol and see all of the people who believe they have talent and get on TV to make a fool of themselves just because no one said, &quot;you are not good&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen! Being in the &#8220;Christian Music Scene&#8221; I run across some not quite stellar bands that seem to be accepted just because they claim to be a &#8220;Christian Band&#8221;. As for you that say &#8220;God loves all praise&#8221;, I&#8217;m sure this is true but he has to grimmace at some of the horrible bands I have had to endure. I belive we truly honor God in our preporation not just the &#8220;performance&#8221;. I joke sometimes with my fellow band members that I am going to tell a certain band what I &#8220;truly&#8221; think about their music, but never do. Of corse you can not limit this the Christian music scene, just watch American Idol and see all of the people who believe they have talent and get on TV to make a fool of themselves just because no one said, &#8220;you are not good&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: be the bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>be the bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bwow, he is brilliant thank you so much</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bwow, he is brilliant thank you so much</p>
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		<title>By: be the bee</title>
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		<dc:creator>be the bee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 12:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you ben ryan</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be the Bee, listen to josh garrels</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, EVERYONE THAT LOVES THE LORD NEEDS TO LISTEN TO JOSH GARRELS

i have no idea why he isnt big yet, everyone needs his music, over oceans and jacranda are two of the best albums of all time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, EVERYONE THAT LOVES THE LORD NEEDS TO LISTEN TO JOSH GARRELS</p>
<p>i have no idea why he isnt big yet, everyone needs his music, over oceans and jacranda are two of the best albums of all time</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David - &quot;Sounds like Mr. Noble just isn’t a fan of rap.&quot; I think it would be fair to say that this is a colossal misrepresentation of Mr. Noble&#8212;seeing as how he himself is a hip-hop artist (so far as I&#039;m aware).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David &#8211; &#8220;Sounds like Mr. Noble just isn’t a fan of rap.&#8221; I think it would be fair to say that this is a colossal misrepresentation of Mr. Noble&#8212;seeing as how he himself is a hip-hop artist (so far as I&#8217;m aware).</p>
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		<title>By: David Harrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Harrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 01:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like Mr. Noble just isn&#039;t a fan of rap. That&#039;s okay, but he shouldn&#039;t insinuate that it&#039;s less than Christian just because he doesn&#039;t get the style and culture. The whole song is about representing Christ. When he says &quot;like we tipsy&quot; he expressly follows that by explaining he&#039;s not tipsy, he&#039;s just into the beat. If anything it is meant to *contrast* their behavior with that of someone who&#039;s drunk. (This reminds me of the unbelievers who criticized the disciples speaking in tongues, saying they must be drunk.) 

If you want to reach people you have to become all things to all men. These guys do an excellent job of looking enough like all the other boys in the hood to be credible, while at the same time presenting a completely different message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Mr. Noble just isn&#8217;t a fan of rap. That&#8217;s okay, but he shouldn&#8217;t insinuate that it&#8217;s less than Christian just because he doesn&#8217;t get the style and culture. The whole song is about representing Christ. When he says &#8220;like we tipsy&#8221; he expressly follows that by explaining he&#8217;s not tipsy, he&#8217;s just into the beat. If anything it is meant to *contrast* their behavior with that of someone who&#8217;s drunk. (This reminds me of the unbelievers who criticized the disciples speaking in tongues, saying they must be drunk.) </p>
<p>If you want to reach people you have to become all things to all men. These guys do an excellent job of looking enough like all the other boys in the hood to be credible, while at the same time presenting a completely different message.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 23:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dane --

Sure, &lt;i&gt;unless&lt;/i&gt; the kid&#039;s preference is hip-hop and he can&#039;t stand Arcade Fire (I weep for his limitations) or The Decemberists (OK, I&#039;m kind of with him, they bore me too). I picked hip-hop as an example genre but I wasn&#039;t all that clear that&#039;s how I was using it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dane &#8211;</p>
<p>Sure, <i>unless</i> the kid&#8217;s preference is hip-hop and he can&#8217;t stand Arcade Fire (I weep for his limitations) or The Decemberists (OK, I&#8217;m kind of with him, they bore me too). I picked hip-hop as an example genre but I wasn&#8217;t all that clear that&#8217;s how I was using it.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 23:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brett - Or that kid could listen to something awesome like Battles or The Decemberists or Panda Bear or Arcade Fire or Portishead or whatever. It&#039;s not a binary choice between misogynistic, ego-driven hip-hop and Christian knock-offs of that music&#039;s style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brett &#8211; Or that kid could listen to something awesome like Battles or The Decemberists or Panda Bear or Arcade Fire or Portishead or whatever. It&#8217;s not a binary choice between misogynistic, ego-driven hip-hop and Christian knock-offs of that music&#8217;s style.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 22:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, a lot of music marketed as overtly Christian isn&#039;t very good. 

But I could replace the words &quot;as overtly Christian&quot; with the word &quot;today&quot; and the sentence would still be true, so I can&#039;t get all that worked up about it. A kid listens to someone rapping poorly about how all the ladies (a word he most assuredly does not use) can&#039;t get enough of his arrogant, irresponsible self &lt;i&gt;or &lt;/i&gt;he listens to someone rapping poorly about the love of God and following Christ. Either way he&#039;s listening to junk, so why not hope he listens to junk that doesn&#039;t glorify thuggishness, misogyny and immediate self-gratification?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, a lot of music marketed as overtly Christian isn&#8217;t very good. </p>
<p>But I could replace the words &#8220;as overtly Christian&#8221; with the word &#8220;today&#8221; and the sentence would still be true, so I can&#8217;t get all that worked up about it. A kid listens to someone rapping poorly about how all the ladies (a word he most assuredly does not use) can&#8217;t get enough of his arrogant, irresponsible self <i>or </i>he listens to someone rapping poorly about the love of God and following Christ. Either way he&#8217;s listening to junk, so why not hope he listens to junk that doesn&#8217;t glorify thuggishness, misogyny and immediate self-gratification?</p>
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