Comments on: Podcast #21: Oprah’s Big Podcast

By: Scott

Scott — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:49:28 +0000

Strangely, listening to this podcast made me want to watch at least one episode of Oprah, just to see what all the hype is about. Don’t know if that’ll actually happen, but the impulse was there.

As a side note, it made me laugh a bit to see Rich’s silly side come out. This is the Rich I know from college. Good times.

By: The Dane

The Dane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:52:41 +0000

Whew, I was concerned there. See, I crave forgiveness from Ben, but abhor it from Rich. So this works out perfectly for me.

By: Rich Clark

Rich Clark — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:38:51 +0000

I don’t.

By: The Dane

The Dane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:36:38 +0000

Whew, I was concerned there ^_^

By: Ben Bartlett

Ben Bartlett — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:23:11 +0000

That’s all right, Dane. We forgive you for not being an expert on this issue.

By: The Dane

The Dane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:24:19 +0000

I'll be honest, I only listened to 15 minutes of this one (so I did get to the part to which David was referring). I probably know less about Oprah than you do Rich, so I couldn't really connect with what you guys were talking about. I know she has a book club and that some of her choices for it in the past were sentimental middlebrow. But that's it. And she was fat at some point. And Tom Cruise killed her. Or something. But that's it. I realize that she's popular with a particular demographic that isn't me, but you could tell me that she's popular because of subliminal advertising and backmasking during her show and I wouldn't be able to contradict you.

By: Rich Clark

Rich Clark — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:46:47 +0000

The Dane: yep. That’s pretty much what I was getting at.

By: The Dane

The Dane — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:43:37 +0000

And since the church, by its nature, is a community of believers, there is no reason non-believers should feel comfortable in their midst. It is hard to find community in that from which one must be excluded.

@David – You ask whether that’s the fault of the church. I’d say it’s God’s gift to the church, that they would be a special people, set apart. After all, what fellowship has darkness with light?

By: Rich Clark

Rich Clark — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:25:48 +0000

David, what I had in mind was that the nature of the non-Christian is to want to feel justified in their unrepentant sin, which we both know is not the church’s forte, to say the least.

I do think it’s possible for them to feel “welcomed,” but they certainly won’t feel comfortable being completely “authentic” with those who will tell them they’re sinning over and over.

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By: David

David — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:43:43 +0000

@ Rich,

You said that you would not send a non-Christian to the church to find authenticity and community, because they won’t find that there, as long as they are a not Christians.

Do you think that this is a fault of churches or just an attribute of being a sinner? Is there a way that non-Christians could be welcomed into a Biblical Church even though they are not Christians?

By: Alan Noble

Alan Noble — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:51:57 +0000

Great topic guys. Can’t wait to listen to this episode.